Hatten Wine

davita

Markit

davita

Prizes are given away in business for being able to stand up. In this case they probably asked the Hatten guy what that bunch of purple things hanging from a vine where. Since they only were given silver he probably only got it on the 3rd or 4th guess.[/QUOTE]And you know all this because you went to a free wine-tasting in Napa Valley on a school outing? Were you the kid that forgot you're supposed to spit the nectar out and consequently suffered a hangover...:grumpy:Well, maybe you are right as the judges were French. So what to hell do they know about wine, especially Beaujolais Nouveau......but those Gauluise smokers sure know how to market that crap.link:[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaujolais_nouveau]Beaujolais nouveau - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

Markit

Wooooo toucheeeee!!!

Joe Writeson

..off to the side all wine nazis should be forced to watch the 'Nooveau Bojolais' episode of 'Minder' where 'Arfer' is getting the new brew a week before anyone else and in five gallon plastic drums ......see what I did THERE...

ertert

Bintang is a gold medalist

mugwump

Bintang is a gold medalist[/QUOTE]Have no quarrel with Bintang, but wonder if there is any truth to the rumor that it contains formaldehyde?

Markit

Have no quarrel with Bintang, but wonder if there is any truth to the rumor that it contains formaldehyde?[/QUOTE]Formaldehyde in beer? You just need to dilute it enough - with more beer preferably.

davita

Many here have castigated me ....nay denigrated...nay reprimanded...nay said very, very bad words about my penchant for the Hatten Rose wine made in Bali.Well I have to tell you all that, according to today's Bali Daily/Jakpost, Hatten Winery won a silver medal for their Rose wine in a prestigious French Sommelier competition last Friday . This is in addition to winning Gold in another competition in Hong Kong last year.Maybe I DO know something....shit....just realized....they'll probably put the price up.:icon_e_surprised:I'd better get in more stock pronto!:apathy:[/QUOTE]Took a couple of bottles of said chilled Jepun Sparkling Rose to a lunch party at a friend's house in Umulas yesterday ...yup the same wine that won the silver medal in Paris. I didn't say anything until everyone had tasted...the general consensus was....it is fruity crap...but the bottles were emptied nonetheless.I guess I'm back to the stock 2 litre box of the still stuff...not keen on sparkling wine anyway. But, sparkling Bintang...another story!

Joe Writeson

Hatten Rose used to give me gut wrenching heartburn...usually about the ninth or tenth bottle.Bintang? Better than nothing and acceptable if rilly rilly cold... is the Formadehyde thing true or just another 'urban legend' ... you know the one about the bloke from Australia who took a bottle back to Oz and had it tested and proved without doubt said chemical was indeed present ... and one of course asks 'If he suspected the content why didn't he just stop drinking it?'But 'Urban Legends' don't work like that do they... I mean Holy Cow...there is even the suspicion that some American beers contain 'beer'

Markit

That's right! Always picking on the Yanks. We brought civilization to the world - so what if it meant you had to have a coke with your big Mac? At least you could watch good films and listen to good music while doing it. "American Beer" is just like "white rice" there are worlds of difference in them all. Hey! Even Coors, what used to be called "near beer", has upped its game in the last 10 years and tastes reasonable (not great, but if you're hot and thirsty and it's all there is ...). Hundreds of micro breweries have sprung up all over the country and produce a not bad collection of "piss" as the Ozzies call it, also shows you in what high regard they hold beer. Now your German is a whole different ball game - THAT'S FECKING BEER! Hell, they've been brewing the shit about 5 times as long as America's been a country so it better be good. Bintang is drinkable and you don't get the "can't drink any more of this stuff" syndrome, least-wise I don't and those that I drink with seem to muscle through the barrier too. I do pity the poor wine drinker here though and fully understand why they will proclaim loudly how wonderful the local sorts are - if you can convince yourselves it's drinkable then the battle is half over. Just don't try and convince anyone else without being sure how they're gonna vote first. In vino veritas.

Adam

Q: What does American Beer and making love in a canoe have in common?A: They're both f**king close to water.Sadly (and waiting to be crucified) Bintang aint much better and it's the best of a bad bunch. I wish the Indo's could brew beer like Thai's. Anybody else notice the massive variation in brews of Bintang?

Rangi

Not so much the different Brews. But the Temperature it is served at can vary and that affects the whole experience. For some places it is hard for them to figure out how to serve the beer nice and cold for the most pleasurable drinking experience.

davita

My MO with Bintang is buying a besar bottle 'coz they are much cheaper than 2 ketchil ones...but...to keep the beer cold I ask for a 2nd glass filled with Ess. As soon as I finish the first glass I pour the ice into it then fill that cold glass with the 2nd filling from the bottle....works for me and I always get a smile of respect from the waitress as they realize they are witnessing a genious:icon_eek:

Adam

Hi Rangi,Ya, get the whole temperature thing but I guess what I was alluding to was some batches seem to make you feel pissed after half a dozen and other times you can drink for hours and be sober as a church mouse. Similarly, some days you can swallow a poultice of the things and be on cloud 9 and other days a couple of stubbies later and you are diving for the Quik Eze (Mylanta) with a dose of heartburn like you had consumed all the chilli's in East Java. One thing I have noticed is that concern for the 'Boomer' does not exist which may explain things and after periods of high consumption (Christmas, New Year, AFL finals) quality goes to shit also. Anybody else concur with this observation?

no.idea

I always get a smile of respect from the waitress as they realize they are witnessing a genious:icon_eek:[/QUOTE]Witnessing a what?

no.idea

I have been known to have a cold beer or two on a hot day.Beer that is brewed in tropical climates needs some type of preservative. It is more than likely that Bintang contains a certain amount of formaldehyde. Storm and Stark beers obviously did not contain any preservative and this was why they had no "self life". A freshly brewed batch tasted nice but after a month or so it turned to crud.Adam, I reckon you are spot on about the variation in the alcohol content of Bintang.

chris44

[b]gin tonic[/b]guys, in my opinion either hatten nore bintang is not at the top of the ranking..like everything what available in indonesia...so missing my paulaner hefeweizen (dark) i move to gin tonic in absence of wine and beer.. did you try this ..with lime and ice..i always use in 0.5 liter beer glas..than it not so fast empty heheh..but i heard paulaner is in mall of indonesia right? if true I will definitly visit next time in jakarta..have nice weekend

modelt1826

I agree for some reason i can drink bintang for weeks then all of a sudden i will get heartburn and indigestion. However i have been informed down the years if at all possible check the best before date. The date actually represents the day it was bottled from the previous year now the rule of thumb is any bottles over three month old are on the decline. So if your buying a crate from the local supplier check the date because if its been in the sun for 7/8 months i doubt it has nurtured the flavor.

mugwump

There is a good reason most beer and many wines are bottled in green or brown bottles. The sunshine just ain't good for that stuff.