Thinking of upping sticks

spicyayam

You can also find small apartments and rooms for rent on a month to month basis. Some even have wifi and might be an option if you don't want to pay a full year's rent upfront. Many people also doing a similar thing now, so you could pool your resources together with some other like minded people. If you do rent a whole villa, you could probably rent out spare rooms without having to go on Airbnb. Maybe just ask the landlord if it is ok if it is ok if you have friends staying for an extended period.

davita

Many do exactly what you dream of doing but, as you aren't yet familiar with the way things are done, why not rent a room from someone already matured in this....and take steps to build an experience to achieve your wish. The only visas available are... Visa on Arrival (VOA). you arrive and are given an option... free for 30 days then leave....or pay US$35 and get 30 days extendible for another 30 days (another US$35) then leave. Tourist Visa. Issued from UK RI Embassy...OK for 60 days and maybe extendible...depends on circumstances after arrival. Sosbud Visa .Issued from UK RI Embassy but needs a sponsor letter from an Indonesian. Extendible monthly up to 6 months. Retirement visa. Need to be over 55 years.

Ben_A

Hi folks, long time lurker. Recently I've decided to kick start my dream of moving to Bali to escape the monotony of western life, I'm sure you're no stranger to Westerners looking for advice on this situation, and I realise that I may well be the trillionth person who wants this type of life! When I was in Bali last year, it was suggested that saving up on a western wage and paying up front for a year long lease in Bali would be a good idea. Within 10 months to a year in England, I'll have enough to cover a years lease in Bali, and then some. I also have a small recurring online based income to pay for bills month to month, which would grow if I had the free time when in Bali. My question is this, am I able to sub let a room on Airbnb to supplement the rental cost and top up my income? I've seen contradicting information, some say it is fine if nobody knows, others say it is illegal, others say that with the landlords permission you can and it is perfectly legal. If I was to do this, which visa would I be able to do this on? Does this visa involved visa runs, and how many years would I get in Bali before they send me back to Grey Britain? I have looked at costs, and could break even on the cost of a year lease with a 42% occupancy rate per annum, is this wishful to expect almost half a year of 'bookings' for want of a better term? I'm looking at Badung, along the coast...naturally. My idea is to pay upfront for a year of stress free life, where I can expand my online business and skim a few quid on the side with room sub-letting. Thanks, please be gentle when crushing my dreams ;)

Markit

Ben_A wroteHi folks, long time lurker. Recently I've decided to kick start my dream of moving to Bali to escape the monotony of western life, I'm sure you're no stranger to Westerners looking for advice on this situation, and I realise that I may well be the trillionth person who wants this type of life![COLOR=#ff0000] Not a problem cause that's part of the fun - but do use the "search" facility for your questions first otherwise people without my sunny disposition can get shirty[/COLOR] When I was in Bali last year, it was suggested that saving up on a western wage and paying up front for a year long lease in Bali would be a good idea. Within 10 months to a year in England, I'll have enough to cover a years lease in Bali, and then some. I also have a small recurring online based income to pay for bills month to month, which would grow if I had the free time when in Bali.[COLOR=#ff0000] First stay a couple of weeks in a homestay in your chosen part of paradise to make sure it really is. Once you have seen it's the real deal then hunt around for something more permanent - this will usually require a longer commitment. [/COLOR] My question is this, am I able to sub let a room on Airbnb to supplement the rental cost and top up my income? I've seen contradicting information, some say it is fine if nobody knows, others say it is illegal, others say that with the landlords permission you can and it is perfectly legal.[COLOR=#ff0000]It is in no way legal to do and your neighbors will most probably turn you in if your landlord doesn't (he would get the house back to re let). [/COLOR] If I was to do this, which visa would I be able to do this on? Does this visa involved visa runs, and how many years would I get in Bali before they send me back to Grey Britain?[COLOR=#ff0000]See above.[/COLOR] I have looked at costs, and could break even on the cost of a year lease with a 42% occupancy rate per annum, is this wishful to expect almost half a year of 'bookings' for want of a better term? I'm looking at Badung, along the coast...naturally. [COLOR=#ff0000]Most hotels and luxury resorts are working with a huge marketing budget and a team of dedicated staff and achieve 30% average occupancy so if you can manage 42% sell your services to them. Otherwise forget it. [/COLOR] My idea is to pay upfront for a year of stress free life, where I can expand my online business and skim a few quid on the side with room sub-letting.[COLOR=#ff0000]Nothing ventured, nothing gained but don't plan that as a "must have" . [/COLOR] Thanks, please be gentle when crushing my dreams ;)

Welcome to the forum.

Markit

ronb wroteBit of a belated response. There is some evidence that Immigration is scanning Airbnb listings and then in some cases, giving the expat connected with it a hard time because their visa does not permit "working". In some cases they settle for for payments that can be as high as 250 million (the cost of a car)./QUOTE] Oh really? Where did you read that?

ronb

I didn't really read it anywhere. It is more from having drinks with people who pass on stories. If you think this source is unreliable - that's OK - no problem for me.

ronb

Bit of a belated response. There is some evidence that Immigration is scanning Airbnb listings and then in some cases, giving the expat connected with it a hard time because their visa does not permit "working". In some cases they settle for for payments that can be as high as 250 million (the cost of a car). So in your case, I suggest the better approach would be to rent on a monthly or 3 monthly basis to people who work in tourism. There are Facebook pages that can help find people and I have not heard of Immigration following these leads - but still it may be better to use an Indonesian contact name and phone number - even if you use your own Facebook identity. This also works well because expats often choose properties a bit out of the centre, and these toruism workers all have motorbikes of course.

spicyayam

ronb wroteBit of a belated response. There is some evidence that Immigration is scanning Airbnb listings and then in some cases, giving the expat connected with it a hard time because their visa does not permit "working". In some cases they settle for for payments that can be as high as 250 million (the cost of a car). So in your case, I suggest the better approach would be to rent on a monthly or 3 monthly basis to people who work in tourism. There are Facebook pages that can help find people and I have not heard of Immigration following these leads - but still it may be better to use an Indonesian contact name and phone number - even if you use your own Facebook identity. This also works well because expats often choose properties a bit out of the centre, and these toruism workers all have motorbikes of course.

Yes, I would like to know more about this also. There was a report going around quite a while ago that immigration were checking this, but no one could point to a source. I know someone who has a hotel and they had some visits from immigration.

Markit

Trouble is Ron that everyone seems to have the same "source" for these stories of doom. In my experience talking to lots of expats most of them seem to be bored or drunk out of their minds and just free associate a load of bullshit. I've been called all kinds of unkind things (sob, sob) because I try and get to the root of some of the more outlandish crap I hear because I still think knowledge is a protection against karma...

ronb

Well maybe I am listening too much to drunk bored people. But I believe real people have parted with considerable funds and so my advice to Airbnb listers is to keep in the background.