sakumabali
Just back from Sanglah Hospital; quite an experience I can tell. Everybody out there healthy should praise god because you definitely don't want to be IN there...
Really make me think to leave Bali even earlier (and I will leave anyway in June) but this was a disgrace.
Dirty (had to pee in a hole with screaming people next to me) and unreliable ("yes the doctor comes soon, just one more patient" and one hour later "Yes the doctor comes soon just TWO more patients")
looks like a real hopeless place, before I went with a person in real pain to a doctor in Denpasar. We got number 12 but at 10.30 the doctor was already one hour late. We tried to jump the queue but nobody (EVEN grandmas with a sore finger) let us; I mean in Europe emergency patients have priority.
Don't get sick in paradise...
sakumabali
We chose Sanglah because the only neurologist available on that island at 12 PM was "on duty"
there - whatever that means here
still doesn't change that ignorant behavior in the waiting room of another doctor someplace else
I'm aware that Prima Medika is better (for indonesian standards at least)
No wonder rich Indonesians all fly to Singapore
davita
Indonesia doesn't have a public health service as in other western democracies. It has a fledgling BPJS health insurance service so those, who subscribe to the service, have some sort of medical insurance.....but not all hospitals and doctors are part of the system.
Sanglah is a public hospital that caters for the poor.
Most expats are required to have medical insurance which opens up to any classed private hospitals like Prima, Siloam and others that advertise. I don't know why anyone with insurance, or sufficient finance, would choose Sanglah.
Last year I had two major operations in Prima Medika and, because I'm too old for affordable insurance, I paid cash. I'm completely satisfied with the treatment and the price was reasonable given the complexity and quality of care.
davita
It is true, as in most things, you get what you pay for.....
I just checked the Siloam Bali website and they (apparently) offer 24 hour on-call neurologist availability.
sakumabali
I don't believe that ;) most hospitals have only assistant doctors (guess it's cheaper), the real doctors spend their time on the road from hospital to hospital & their own practice. they just have gigs...hospitals in general here just trying to attract attention. the 24 hour neurologist wasn't there yesterday night (probably most of the days the case)
Indonesian investors love hospitals that much cause you can have shitty beds & bathrooms but the patients can't complain! Great investment. It's true! (Trump Modus On)
davita
During the last year I've spent many, many nights in a VIP room in Prima Medika hospital. It had really cold A/C, an electric bed, another hotel bed for my wife who stayed with me, TV, frig, private bathroom/shower and constant attention by pretty nurses...what more can one ask for.
As I said....it's available...depending on who pays and how much. Prima Medika isn't part of the BPJS system...yet.
My surgeon is a prominent oncologist professor and teaches at the university.
tel522
siloam is bpjs
sakumabali
I've been in Prima Medika twice (also one time in what they call a "VIP Room"). Once with my ex-wife for a cancerous tumor in the throat and the second time with one of my workers who fell from the roof (unfortunately on the head); I agree it's a decent hospital. But in-house DOCTORS are too expensive so they have free lancer doctors/ surgeons who make an appointment with the hospital (after the payment is cleared)
sakumabali
I've been in Prima Medika twice. Once with my ex-wife for a cancerous tumor in the throat and the second time with one of my workers who fell from the roof (unfortunately on the head); I agree it's a decent hospital. But in-house DOCTORS are too expensive so they have fee lancer doctors/ surgeons who make an appointment with the hospital (after the payment is cleared)
davita
You are right Sakumabali...that's the system here.
Some doctors are share-holders in the hospital, some are residents and some are associates. I can see the GP I particularly like anytime but it depends on which hospital he attends on which day. That hospital charges according to that hospital's fees....so I always wait till my doctor is in-house in Prima Medika, and not Siloam, because he is cheaper in the former ...and so are any tests he prescribes.
My surgeon told me he also operates in Sanglah one day a week. He considers that a teaching hospital...and I'm sure he does it free.
DenpasarHouse
tel522 wrotesiloam is bpjs
I'm not sure what the deal is with Siloam. They've got a small BPJS clinic around the back but I don't know how this is integrated with the rest of the hospital. I'm sceptical that you'd get the same level of service using BPJS as you would if you were to pay in cash.
tel522
depending on the class of bpjs , class 1, would get you a room for 2 , in uk for example whether nhs or private, bupa lets say , you see the same doctors just in nicer surroundings for private, but the pain of operations is just the same, as I have experienced.
I use a combo of klass 1 bpjs and allianz , keeps the costs down with flexibility , thankfully im in good health ,should anything untoward happen the local health service will be my first port of call , the "golden hour etc" , should evacuation be necessary allianz will cover that.
