Bali Expat Forum - Bali Travel Forum

[Jen]

Hi Mungo

Good luck with your dream mate!

As Roy always says: Many are called but few are chosen.

I would highly recommend you stay for long periods of time in Bali before you decide to relocate. All is not what it appears! Hmmmmm.

Anyway, you are so negative about my magnificent country, better you go and make way for the 1000's who are literally dying to get in!

Oooroo

[mungo]

No problem Jen. I didn't think you comprehended my post that well, but then again you are from Sydney so I understand. The poor wanna be Aussies will all be working for low pay and hardly no conditions whilst people like you continue to keep your head in the sand and say f..k you Jack, I'm okay. There are more sheep in Australia besides the ones grazing in paddocks.

[Someone]

At the moment I live in another land that offers high taxes, taxes on almost everything, un-real property prices, ever increasing road traffic, unreliable public transport systems, a plethora of hidden traffic speed cameras and speed signs, questionable gov't laws, high council rates, gov't , police and corporate corruption, huge waiting lists for the treatment of chronic and acute medical conditions, sky rocketing food & petrol prices & gov't charges, increasing insurance, electricity, gas and water charges, convicted murderers violating parole & roaming the streets, a huge nationwide drug problem, a constant barrage of doom & gloom tv and radio news dominated by what the gov't is doing (or not doing) and the fact that weather here at the moment is cold and windy.

I'm from Canada, and spent about 10 years in the States. I loved both countries, especially for the various vast natural beauties. I've been in SE Asia for 5 years now, and have found the change agreeable. In the States I had problems with anxiety and depression, and had a driven personality, as if always in fight or flight mode. My attitude has changed now, and I live less for the future. I love to complain about some of the more negative cultural and social aspects of life here, but the positive of the more laid back lifestyle is a huge, life enhancing plus. And for a middle aged single western man, a wider range of ages of partners is more available for dating, or even marriage.

[mungo]

Hi Someone and I must apologise if the realities of life must be exposed to this forum, although I take your post as part of an experience in your life and an observation. Our countries share many similarities that are good and not so good.

I am sure some Aussie ex-pats living in Bali would be a little re-assured that some of the "nasty" things of Australia still linger. I have a few friends that live and work in Bali, so we all share the same sentiments.
I worked within a large workforce for many years and was involved with unions. It is when you are battling to maintain your Rights and conditions that you see what gov'ts will do to control its taxpayers and workers, and what money will do to good men.

Those

1000's dying to get in

(to Australia) as our hit 'n run forumite has un-wittingly put it, will take our jobs for a lot less money and have no conditions and thus further degrade the living standards which took a long time, a lot of lives and a few wars to achieve. I would hope anyone coming to Australia got the same conditions and lifestyle as those who have come here from other countries over the past two centuries, who have contributed their cultures and skills and also enjoyed the fruits of their efforts.

When I put such realities on "paper" I suppose one with a weak stomach could become quite depressed just reading them. The one thing we drones cannot simulate on paper is expressing text into mood. When one posts to a forum, one is in danger of drawing criticism. Many people avoid critisism and the realities of life, as they have either never experienced them or it gives them such stress just to think about it, that they just curl up, or disappear or sadly, just stay silent. Some just read the parts of a post that irk them, either they don't or can't comprehend the post, then they either mis-read or mis-interpret what is written and finally they get themselves tied up into a little knot, type out some odd angry words, take a Panadol or 2, and then disappear for a week or so.

The point to which I was alluding in my post was that Bali is a breath of fresh air for those unfortunate not to be able to leave the rat race for more than a few weeks of the year. Living on the great island, even though it isn't probably perfect, to me is a long time lingering thought, even perhaps a dream. The Balinese people, their culture and religion deserve some of my dollars and it is they who are a big part of the Bali experience for my wife and myself. I hope my children will be able to share the Bali experience when they get older, because it is their future that concerns me, as well as that of the Balinese.

It is good to hear that your life has changed for the better, as I can personally relate to your earlier mention of your once held disposition. I have visited many places on the planet, but after visiting Bali for the past 26 years, it has become like an old close friend and one that helps me find some inner peace.

[nessie]

Wow !!
I am a Newbie on this particular forum as well..

You know we all have choices and that includes where we decide to habitate, maybe Indonesia, New Zealand , Australia or whereever.

JUst a short message here after reading all these post,

Do you Not want new people to join this forum, very serious, Look if you don't like living whereever you may be then Damn well make a life change and MOVE.

Nessie

"How people treat you is their Karma: How you react is yours"

[Tinkerbelle]

Wow, theres another forum ha ha? It just shows how people view life so differently in a country. When I arrive back in Australia after a visit to Bali I feel the roads are huge and desserted. Where I live it is quiet and I can go to the shops to browse not be hassled. I would rather have a hospital wait here with the best hospital treatment than be rushed anyday into a hospital in Bali. Or as you have a choice in Australia pay for private medical insurance and don"t wait!. I also think where you live is different if you have children. I myself want an Australian standard education for my kids with the opportunity to go to university like myself . Again I put my kids before myself in giving the best for them. I think people forget Bali is a 3rd world country??. I have pondered the thought of retiring to Bali in the future but as many know on this forum I have definately changed that view. Maybe the day we stop receiving boat loads of refugees from Indonesia and Indonesia has boat loads of Aussies heading there I may rethink it ha ha. I think maybe you have missed the best opportunities we have here in Perth Mungo and think you may find living in Bali hard if you think its hard here. But as we all have choices I wish you well. Again I still love Bali for that dream fantasy Island getaway twice a year and love the people.

[nessie]

Tinkerbell,

I am with you..... Mungo lives in Freo, how "lucky " is he ??

Has Cappucino strip and exitement al year round.
Bali is beautiful, I go there a few times a year, cheap holiday for us from Perth and I am on;ly 3 hours away from home.

To reside there permanently , No, maybe if I had a multi millionaire in tow , so I could zip in and out when I wanted to, may put things in a different perspective.. But I have to qork hard and save for my holidays.
You know each to their own, I go to Bali and look at some of my friends lifestyles, yes appears ideal and it is for them, then I talk to some that are disgruntled with the lifestyle for all the reasons that I read from Py in a previous post.. BUT you know what, if you are not happy being a "Guest" in anothers' country , well then damn well move.
Lived in Thailand for a while in the 80's, then hubby was working there, maid and helpers were fantastic to start with , after a while I missed my cultural lifestyle that I was accustomed to, but I never moaned or groaned and soaked up every experience that I could, and always remembered that I was a Guest in their country and culture.
The old saying goes " If you can't handle the heat in the kitchen , well get out"
Well its ANZAC day here in OZ and NZ and a Public holiday, so I will enjoy that as well.

Nessie

[Jimbo]

nessie

You need to look at the dates when things were posted. The one from Mungo was six months old. Welcome to the forum.

[bolli]

a bit of a late response there nessie.
take note of your own signature maybe.