Thread: Propery law for indonesian women married to bule

Goodday all,

I got a very serious question. Me and my girlfriend are probably getting married later this year for the Dutch law and maybe also for the Indonesian law. This is great ofcourse but we have some questions about what will happen concerning her right to own property in Indonesia/Bali

She has been living in Holland for some years now and also owns some land in Bali at the moment. Somewhere in June we are planning on buying some property together in Bali for later when we want to move to Bali.

I heard via several people that when an Indonesian woman is married to a foreigner she loses her right to own property. What of this is true?

• * What happens if she owns property and gets married for only the Dutch law?
  * What happens if she owns property and gets married for the Dutch and Indonesian law?
  * What happens if she owns property and gets married for Dutch, Indonesian and Balinese local law?

Does anyone know about this or can anyone get me in contact with a government official who could tell me this?
If someone can point me into a direction (email/website) where I can find info I wold be a very happy man.

Thanks a lot.

Regards,

Nakal.

I heard via several people that when an Indonesian woman is married to a foreigner she loses her right to own property. What of this is true?

Only if the foreigner is Dutch! :P :P :P :P :P :P

Seriously though, as Bert gets really angry with me "picking" on the Dutch, you ask:

* What happens if she owns property and gets married for only the Dutch law?

Being married to you, a Dutchman, does not mean she abdicates her birth right as an Indonesian. In other words, she can throw you right out of here, and keep the property.

* What happens if she owns property and gets married for the Dutch and Indonesian law?

Nothing at all different than my first response. It doesn't matter how she is married, the fact is, she is Indonesian, and you are not.

* What happens if she owns property and gets married for Dutch, Indonesian and Balinese local law?

She'll likely have to learn how to chant Om...Om Santi, Santi, Santi, Om, make offerings every day, and aside from that, we are still back to answer one.

Bert! Any more comments or questions relating to our previous discussions on this topic? :P

I wish I knew about this forum 6 years ago. I had exactly the same question then and it took me alot of work to get the right answer (wich is the answer Roy gave).

Off-topic: were in the netherlands do you live. We live in Houten (near utrecht).

Goodday both,

Thanks for your answers but isn't it so that you have to sign a document that whatever is hers stays hers and whatever is yours stays yours no matter what when you get married? (niet in gemeenschap van goederen)
What if something happens to her... I couldn't inherit her land because I'm a bule.

off-topic: Hillegom bollenstreek ;)

Nakal is a funny....meaning, an odd name that you have chosen. Well, we can leave this for another time, and another discussion.

In my own personal opinion, if one’s interests upon engaging in marriage to someone you love are concentrated on “whatever is hers stays hers and whatever is yours stays yours” is doomed to failure before the proclamation of “man and wife” is ever uttered.

In my mind, marriage within, or outside of one’s culture, should be embarked with total trust, love, devotion and a willingness to accept the “slings and arrows” that may, or may not follow.

Marriage is not a business contract...and love is a verb. Surprising it is to me how many folks just don’t understand that.

I agree Roy and if the Indonesian law was different meaning I could own property in Indonesia than ofcourse we would marry "normally"

We are also planning to marry for Dutch law and that's without any contract whatsoever ;)

And my nickname... well, maybe it suits me :P

To "Meneer Nakal" maybe your wife could joint with all Indonesian women who married with bule here,http://www.dim-c.com it's free we are just comunity women who talking about anything here because we talking in our language and this is not oragnitation at all !

I mean ' this is not organitation :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

I talked about this subject with some friends from Germany and one of them told me that a new law also makes it impossible for a women married to a non-indonesian to onw land.

Wheter this is land owned pre-marriage or post-marriage I dont know.

I doubt the source also.