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I read yesterdays Bali Update about villa building in north bali. Some places they are building down to the beach and you can not pass at high water. In february when I was in Bali , my friends and I want to go for a walk on the beach and there was a villa complex I have never seen before. yellow walls all the way down to the water (high water). I was asking how this can be allowed? none of my friends could answer that. And now I read that many villas have been built without the mandatory building permit.
all restaurants, hotels and villas shall be build 50-100 m from the high water mark. In my case the house was built this far, but the fence did go all the way down to the water. Is this allowed? :evil:
This ruin the beach totally and as bali update says, the fisherman can not take their boat up on the beach and there will be a problem if a ceremony want to pass.
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Interesting article.
The title "Villas as Villains of Bali's North" is a bit tabloid like, not Jack's usual style however.
Its a good idea to get a bit more tax from the people that rent out villas, and also allow those people to do legally what they want to do. Its good for tourism, good for the government.
Personally I don't know of any villas without a building permit over there, there may be some, but where? After the article in the Bali Post I asked a few builders, hee, what do you know?. Everyone I know has things in order and official.....
I do know about building permits that allow to build (main structures) as close as 25m to the "waterline" however... You can offcially build things like a bale, or even a pool, closer to the waterline.
Beach access for everyone is important, you cannot own the beach in Bali.
Land is sometimes subject to erosion. I know a few places in North Bali where the beach has become smaller because of natural causes. Some of this land is in front of villas, some of it is not. There are also pieces of beach, where people cannot walk and there is no villa in sight. Its a normal thing.
And what do you do, Balinese or foreigner, if for whatever reason the sea creeps up to your valueble land? You give your land away to the ocean, or you stop it?
Miles of "beach" has been walled, like in the area of Air Sanih and Bukti, no or very little sand in sight....
In one particular situation where people wanted a harbor, and thus the passing along the beach would be interrupted, a bridge was build in cooperation with the village where the harbor is located.
The builders I know in North Bali, don't do anything without consulting the local government, and take great care that any local needs and traditions can continue as allways.
I really hope that taxing and licensing will be offcially regulated soon, and that slightly biased articles like this will not be needed anymore.
I see that the North is becoming more popular, especially villas, either to rent or to buy. Ofcourse a shift of interest of the public, or other reasons may cause some people to have a "certain opinion" about things.
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I hope your thoughts come true Bert.... but it seems that everything is controlled by money and eventually it buys what "they want".
One example is Malibu Beach in California where the "stars live", can't own the beach but just try to "stoll down the beach" and their security will more than likely stop you.......and of course this is true on any beach where "the money is".
Best regards,
Tim
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Its not my experience that is like that in the North, and I didn't hear stories like that about the South.
I think that foreigners are welcome, also "living on the beach", if they respect the local customs and regulations.
Money doesn't make everything right, not even in Bali. It has a lot to do with the goodwill you get. And thats an important and sensitive subject.
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Good to hear Bert......... with yourself and others in Bali that have a genuine interest there, progress will follow the right course.
Best regards,
Tim
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I get a bit peeved when I stay in Lovina and want to get my morning exercise with a stroll along the beach; difficult at the best of times, virtually impossible at high tide.
I agree that many places are built too close to the water line, but erosion has compounded the problem. 5 years ago, the beach in front of Puri Bagus was walkable, but erosion has brought the water line right up to the stone boundary wall. They did build a few rock bars to try to regain a bit of sand, but I noticed last time I was up there it hadn't been successful.
A Balinese friend has built a few bungalows next to Puri Bagus, same situation, the water laps at his retaining wall, and beside his property, erosion has taken about 50 plus meters of the land over the last couple of years.
Not sure of how to rectify the problem, I'm not a beach expert, but it does appear that some sort of breakwaters are needed to catch the sand that is brought in by the waves. I'd guess it's how and where they are placed, and what angle they are on.??
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Hey OG,
I'm bringing 20 of my students up your way on Sunday. We'll be staying in Buyan Cottages for a few days while we participate in some activities that we've organized with Sobek. The kids are looking forward to seeing the market. I'll take a look in if Crackers is open and say hi.
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I've got my two brothers with me for awhile, so we'll be up there watching the AFL Elimination Final - Collingwood v Bulldogs - Sunday 10th September at From 13:00. So if you're around at that time, do drop in & say Hi.
Just in case you don't want to buy me a drink, remember that Forum contributers are entitled to one free shot at the dunnies
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No probs, a percentage of free won't break the kitty too much.Originally Posted by Bert
I'm just designing a VIP Free Card, with a variety of classification colours, and as Forum Kelapa Kapala, yours will be the Gold Pass for sure
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