When we see ads for Land for Sale advertised at RP XXX,xxx (...etc) per are ---- how negotiable is that.
Since just about everything in Indonesia has to be haggled, the price of a brick, the Bintang t-shirt, the taxi ride home after a night on the sauce, I'd assume that land is also a haggle, but on average how negotiable (ya I know how long is a piece of string??!)
Directly proportional to how bad the seller needs money.how negotiable is that.
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat drinking beer all day.
Be friendly, slow, and easy in your discussions with the owner and you'll soon have an idea of how much the price might come down from the asking price. Recently we bought a little property that was completely non-negotiable but the price was great. We knew it and so did the seller. He was from Jakarta and didn't want a lot of bother with the process, just wanted to sell the land.
But, as Spicyayam said, the seller could be in bad need of money and not have prospects making offers to buy and be willing to come down quite a bit.
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A good time to buy land is in August when Ngaben (cremation) is. August is an auspicious month for cremations according to Bali lunar calendar. At least it was this year.
Cremations cost a fortune and some Balinese will sell land cheap to fund the cremation.
Make sure that you don't rush and give it enough time to build the rapport. For some people values and personal interest are far more important than just money.
I m not a story teller but i will try :)
An old man had an old timer car(Ford Galaxie) in his garage and one day he decided to sell it, so he advertised it on some news papers for a very low price. After couple of days he started receiving phone calls and people visiting him to see the car. The car was well maintained and in very good shape. Some people wanted to give him double or triple what he asked for but somehow he refused each time.
Till one day, there was one guy who came to his place and started a conversation about why his selling this car and how/when did he get it , suddenly the old man was all smiling and happy to find a buyer that is interested in him and what does this car mean for him.
It turned out that the old man had a son who is dead now and this was his car that he kept in his garage for decades.
So he gave the car for free to the young man.
Last edited by Mickey; 15-12-2011 at 05:28 PM.
@balibule....last week there were also alot of ngaben-ceremonies.
@shoggard...if the price is fix, then no nego2...if in the add it says nego, the asking price could come down alot.
negotiability,also depends if one is buying through an agent/middleman or straight from the owner. as the price negotiated, will come out of the commision of the agent the
chance is smaller for a lower price. Unless ofcourse within the askingprice of the agent is alot of room to play.
don't read between the lines..i think the words are clear enough...:)
typically what would an agent's fee be?
Obviously going through an agent is more expensive, hopefully they bring some advantage to the party !
In Bali I'm not sure an agent brings much advantage except for ease and perhaps peace-of-mind for those who don't understand "buying" property in Indonesia. Remember that the agent isn't on the buyer's side. And he really isn't on the side of the seller unless it meshes with his wants and needs. Going through an agent can be far more expensive than dealing directly with the seller.
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Everything in Indonesia has the potential for nego.
we have rented and owned a few properties and all where negotiable even when the said its a fix price,
this all depends on you on your own determination and how you approach a seller!
Like you said yourself: Since just about everything in Indonesia has to be haggled!
this is the same rule in property and/or business.
like SpicyAyam Said: Directly proportional to how bad the seller needs money.
I completely agree