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    hi fellow formites

    i have built 3 rammed earth villas in kerobokan and has with stood the test of time and weather lately but my house is still intact now im waiting for the next good shake to test out my earth quake setup i have built into the walls which was designed by a american in sanfransico it has survived a small shake with no wall cracks or damaged so anyone wishing to build this building it is 50 times stronger than a normal brick house and with less concrete so with that in ming check out my facebook page bali griya rammedearth solutions for piks cheers
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    I applaud your efforts and hope they are successful - as a one-time Californian I'm familiar with the concept of rammed earth building and they have been widely attempted in California but, to my limited knowledge, with only limited success due to the extremes of environment there - heat in summer, wet in winter combined with regular trembles from the ground. Similar to Bali, actually

    I hope they stand the test of time.

    Only one other hair in my soup, the rammed earth construction I know is usually using clay/terracotta earth. Yours seems to be a white substance - I pray this isn't processed coral...?

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    thats correct people who have limited knowledge about rammed earth dont know much as some of the best rammed earth houses are built in west australia the builder that helped me in this concept is australias leading rammed earth builder who i flew to bali to oversee construction and also provided the mix formula for the whole project as for the lime stone it worked out as the best product for the mix as its is close to zero clay as clay is a no no in rammed earth abode because clay does not compact for strength thats why to do this project you need professionals and i am lucky to have 3 such builders on my team standing the test of time no worries i can guarantee that i have had many sceptic to my proyek trying to get the formula but i have this safely locked away in my skull and there is also a steel structure design inside the rammedearth for earthquake shakes and cyclone proof roof setup so yes i have done my home work as this is a passion of mine as well as my 3 friends who have visited and given me the stamp of approval so i hope to educate builders and locals that rammed earth is the future my motto be mean 2b green cheers

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    I applaud your efforts and hope they are successful - as a one-time Californian I'm familiar with the concept of rammed earth building and they have been widely attempted in California but, to my limited knowledge, with only limited success due to the extremes of environment there - heat in summer, wet in winter combined with regular trembles from the ground. Similar to Bali, actually

    I hope they stand the test of time.

    Only one other hair in my soup, the rammed earth construction I know is usually using clay/terracotta earth. Yours seems to be a white substance - I pray this isn't processed coral...?

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    looks very poreus? I mean the walls...hope your skull isn't as poreus as the formula,hahaha..just joking!
    seriously it looks nice, but not for me. wishing you luck, friendly greetings gilbert.
    don't read between the lines..i think the words are clear enough...:)

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    Why the secrecy about your mixture?

    If you come on an open forum and want to "Big" up your project (and possibly sell it???) then you better be prepared to answer some questions about it.

    Since I doubt if the world is panting for your secret recipe (you aint Colonel Sanders or Coca Cola) you might just as well tell the people here, who might be able to advance your project, some more about it?

    Or is there something to hide?

    Oh and some periods and commas are good - I almost suffocated.

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    Cool

    It's sounds like $$$$$$$$$$ so I'am sure it will be a big hit in Bali, lots of eco friendly building projects in Australia but they cost big dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by komangkiwi57 View Post
    thats correct people who have limited knowledge about rammed earth dont know much as some of the best rammed earth houses are built in west australia the builder that helped me in this concept is australias leading rammed earth builder who i flew to bali to oversee construction and also provided the mix formula for the whole project as for the lime stone it worked out as the best product for the mix as its is close to zero clay as clay is a no no in rammed earth abode because clay does not compact for strength thats why to do this project you need professionals and i am lucky to have 3 such builders on my team standing the test of time no worries i can guarantee that i have had many sceptic to my proyek trying to get the formula but i have this safely locked away in my skull and there is also a steel structure design inside the rammedearth for earthquake shakes and cyclone proof roof setup so yes i have done my home work as this is a passion of mine as well as my 3 friends who have visited and given me the stamp of approval so i hope to educate builders and locals that rammed earth is the future my motto be mean 2b green cheers
    From Wikipedia:

    "Building a rammed earth wall involves a process of compressing a damp mixture of earth that has suitable proportions of sand, gravel and clay (sometimes with an added stabilizer) into an externally supported frame, creating a solid wall of earth. Historically, stabilizers such as lime or animal blood were used to stabilize the material, whilst modern rammed earth construction uses lime, cement or asphalt emulsions. Some modern builders also add coloured oxides or other items such as bottles or pieces of timber to add variety to the structure."

    I'm not an expert, but this contradicts your assertion that clay is a "no-no".

    And also :

    CONTINUITY OF TRADITION : NEW EARTH BUILDING
    Stephen Dobson
    BEng., BCom., Registered Builder 3982

    Committee Member JTC BD/83 – Joint Technical Committee of Standards Association of Australia and Standards New Zealand for preparation of a Standard for Earth Building for Australia and New Zealand


    "Ability to keep out the elements. This generally requires the walls to be totally waterproof under all weather conditions. Traditionally clay in the earth used for construction was the key element in keeping out the water. Practitioners should be aware that deleting some or all of the clay under some earth building techniques lessens the waterproofness of the building and that substituting surface coatings and chemicals may not be in the best long term interests of the building. Indeed, the line is often crossed when earth building techniques are used with mixes which are so highly contrived as to be not true earth building but more conventional masonry mixes applied with earth building techniques"

    Full article is here:
    http://members.optusnet.com.au/roger.../Terra2000.doc

    I agree with Markit, have your poured all your punctuation marks into your rammed earth walls? Maybe that's the secret? I think we should be told. :)

    There is no way I would contract a builder if he refused to tell me the details of the building materials he was using.

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    So which one is you .....Komangkiwi57 or Baliboy57...???? Need to to know much more abt you and the secret formula ...otherwise you will be off my list also

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    oldest trick in the book....being secretive (formula), creating a hype around the product (using facebook amongst others) ofcourse with the intend to sell.
    Nothing wrong with that, if the product is good....but cyclone-proof roof ?? or earthquake-proof walls for that matter?? yeah right...lol.
    don't read between the lines..i think the words are clear enough...:)

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    Maybe the secret formula is concrete...............!
    Seriously though,: as I am in the construction business and will be continuing so in Bali at the end of January, I have carried out a great deal of research on alternative construction methods and would have to say that while I don't right the concept off........... I won't be offering this method to clients in Bali's climate.

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