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Be careful not to confuse friendly locals waving to you in the street with the 'friendliness' of property agents. I don't think anyone doubts that Balinese are mostly kind and sociable people. If you are spending a lot of money, you can be sure everyone is going to be very helpful and friendly to relieve you of your cash. If the agent or makalar only gets 5% commission you can consider that a small victory.
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat drinking beer all day.
I agree, Spicy. As an example, a few weeks ago a Balinese lady came by to look for a room for her "very good friend" from France. After I showed her a couple of rooms and gave her the rates, she then asked about commission. I told her: standard 10%, as per usual practice.Originally Posted by spicyayam
She seemed ok with this, but returned 2 days later to tell me she had "sold" the room for 10 nights to her "very good friend" at a much higher rate than I had quoted and she would pocket the difference.
I then had to explain to her that guests talk to each other about how much they've paid and that no, she couldn't sell the room for a higher rate than quoted. She was miffed to say the least and walked off in a huff, saying she would find somewhere else for her friend to stay.
My reply, "terserah anda".
I for one resent this remark. Maybe your sense of humour needs looking at. The best people to help new arrivals are the expat community and folks from sites like this. What a pompous dickhead statement to make.
same feeling here..
don't read between the lines..i think the words are clear enough...:)
Locals know very little of what a western person has to do to live here, But then again I would be lucky to see a western person once a week.. Its forums like this that you can learn a lot & make life a lot easer when you make the big move to Indonesia
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Absolutely agree, 100%.Locals know very little of what a western person has to do to live here, But then again I would be lucky to see a western person once a week.
That kind of thing really annoys me also. 10% commission is very fair IMO and it is what most agents and travel booking sites charge.I agree, Spicy. As an example, a few weeks ago a Balinese lady came by to look for a room for her "very good friend" from France. After I showed her a couple of rooms and gave her the rates, she then asked about commission. I told her: standard 10%, as per usual practice.
She seemed ok with this, but returned 2 days later to tell me she had "sold" the room for 10 nights to her "very good friend" at a much higher rate than I had quoted and she would pocket the difference.
I then had to explain to her that guests talk to each other about how much they've paid and that no, she couldn't sell the room for a higher rate than quoted. She was miffed to say the least and walked off in a huff, saying she would find somewhere else for her friend to stay.
My reply, "terserah anda".
If her "friend" stayed at your place, it would have been a win-win situation for everyone. I have no doubt the lady will eventually be able to work something out with another hotel - a hotel I am sure that is overpriced and is desparate for guests.
The final result is that her friend overpays for a sub-standard hotel, which she makes a hefty commission.
Some foreigners with Indonesian spouses buy property in Bali and is quite common for the local spouse to ask for their own commission from the owner or agent, unbeknown to the foreigner. Not only is the property going in the local's name, they are also making a hefty commission from the sale!
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat drinking beer all day.
I get the feeling that in some cases the names people give themselves on these forums should be taken literally and not as a Nome de Internet, so to speak.
In this case AndrewBaker77 really is just that.
Hi Andy how's the basket making class going? New meds still working?
Next time the head sister leaves her PC unattended perhaps go for the porn option instead huh?
Um!I get the feeling that in some cases the names people give themselves on these forums should be taken literally and not as a Nome de Internet, so to speak.
Some nations seems to have plenty of good hearted citizens. Sezudo island in South Korea treated us with same politeness.
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