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    Quote Originally Posted by homeinbali View Post
    Yes you are right, we have no internet connection where we are & no hope of the authorities putting it in as there is no need in the area as yet. We can get a phoneline but it is not capable of internet. The company Blueline have been out & quoted on building a wifi tower, 26 meter tall, once installed we then sign up to one of their internet plans.
    We can get internet on our i-phones, expensive and intermittent & we can't always open posts, photos.
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    It sounds like you are quite remote - I am not sure where you are.

    The options you mention

    1. Telkom - their service (product name is Speedy) is ADSL over the fixed phone lines. For it to be available you need to be reasonably close to the telephone exchange (say 8 Km or less), a good quality fixed phone line, and fairly modern equipment in the local exchange that will support ADSL. Maybe your exchange has old equipment and Telkom have no plans to upgrade at present.

    2. One of the mobile phone networks. Your iPhones work so you have mobile networks available, but the poor Internet service you mention suggests that your local phone towers are only providing 2G services - not 3G which improves Internet access be a huge degree. Once again, the mobile phone provider may have no upgrade plans - most their upgrade plans are directed to the larger towns where the number of mobile phone users is growing. The photo Gilbert provided is I think a gadget that gets it's internet access from a mobile network, and then provides wireless access for a few devices within your house. Recently in another thread Lou mentioned such a device - search for E585. But unless you can ascertain that one of the mobile phone networks has 3G in your area - this thing won't help. There are several networks so you need to check them all.

    3. Blueline or another Internet provider like Spicelink in Lovina. They have Internet access at the central points through one of the phone companies - could be just Telkom Speedy, or if they are big - something else. They then connect customers by line-of-sight radio links. They will have a tall tower centrally and then work out what is needed at your location to connect to their central tower. A 26 metre tower is tall, and presumably expensive, suggesting you are far from, or perhaps partly hidden from, the nearest Blueline tower. If you can find another provider with a tower closer to you, you may get away with a much smaller tower.

    One other option is connection via satellite. One provider in the Lovina area was using this - it is fairly expensive to setup so not attractive for an individual user. There is some info at Internet Access Options in Indonesia and they say it is fast meaning you can get high download speeds, but don't say that there is a delay - about 1/3 sec which is the time it takes to get a signal from the ground to the satellite and then back to the ground. For interactive activities like Skype or Internet banking this delay can be annoying. This expat.or.id link also has a link to Inmarsat - one of the companies providing this kind of service.

    Hope this helps in your search.
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    Presumably Homeinbali's place is below the surrounding area. Result is poor coverage for any wireless service. To get internet service from any ISP, be it GlobalXtreme, Blueline, Channel11, etc, the antenna needs to be on a mast. Very common. I am afraid Homeinbali has no choice. 3G internet from Smart, XL, Telkomsel will never work at the place unless they build a tower within 500m.

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    You guys are all great, thankyou for your advice. Our problems aren't resolved yet but I have taken your advice on board and something will work out.

    The internet is a problem, we are approximately 10 kilometres away from the nearest tower, a huge red and white ugly thing, no other towers around, we believe it is Telkom. We will look into the cost of satellite, the quote we have for the tower is just under 11 million rupiahs, but then we will have land rental costs and provider plan costs on top of that, and if the tower is blueline you have to have blueline's plans. Thanks Ron for your input. Peter you are right we are quite remote....at first we thought Blueline were going to use our tower for others but apparently it doesn't work like that.....shame we could have rented it back to them!

    I like the idea of keeping the staff within the village and will seriously look at training our current cook and maybe one other from the village so that they can share the job, timeoff etc.. She is quite young with one child and I expect more children will be planned for the future. The idea of bringing someone in to do the training is a better option than me trying to teach something I know little about, my 20 yr.old suggested asking Gordon Ramsay what he was up to in his holidays! I think Jamie Oliver's basic cooking would be a better option and easier on the ears!

    As for the permits we will also look into these, exactly what is it that we would need and what costs?, the lawyer did mention it all when we were purchasing the land but we weren't really thinking of it as a business back then. I think our nominee worries too much about our budget and is trying to keep the costs down for us as he knew we would have a lot of things to build, purchase and worry about. "Squeeze the budget" is one of his favourite sayings!

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    Personally, I don't necessarily agree it's a good idea to employ people from your own village/banjar/desa.

    If, for instance, you have a problem with one of the staff and you decide they're not suitable for the job and have to let them go, then you may have a problem with the entire village.

    Just my opinion though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matsaleh View Post
    Personally, I don't necessarily agree it's a good idea to employ people from your own village/banjar/desa.

    If, for instance, you have a problem with one of the staff and you decide they're not suitable for the job and have to let them go, then you may have a problem with the entire village.

    Just my opinion though.
    Yes,you are right,it is like tight-rope -walking.But if you build a new house in a small village like that you surely will have a problem with the whole village if you do NOT hire anyone from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by homeinbali View Post
    You guys are all great, thankyou for your advice. Our problems aren't resolved yet but I have taken your advice on board and something will work out.


    I like the idea of keeping the staff within the village and will seriously look at training our current cook and maybe one other from the village so that they can share the job, timeoff etc.. She is quite young with one child and I expect more children will be planned for the future. The idea of bringing someone in to do the training is a better option than me trying to teach something I know little about, my 20 yr.old suggested asking Gordon Ramsay what he was up to in his holidays! I think Jamie Oliver's basic cooking would be a better option and easier on the ears!
    Hi, maybe I can help you with training/teaching your current cook. Am a fan of Jamie and I think the recipes from ministry of food is a good start. PM me if you are interested, and we can take it from there. Btw, I live in Ubud area and looking to do something useful:)

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoyra View Post
    Hi, maybe I can help you with training/teaching your current cook. Am a fan of Jamie and I think the recipes from ministry of food is a good start. PM me if you are interested, and we can take it from there. Btw, I live in Ubud area and looking to do something useful:)
    Hoping you received my personal message to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by homeinbali View Post
    Hoping you received my personal message to you.
    got it and am in the midst of replying. Thanks

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