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I pay my gardener/pool maintenance man (he is a gem) 1 juta per month and he works 4 hrs per day - mon to sat, that is a flat rate, whether he is at a ceremony or not, on top of that he has two other jobs (with my recommendation). My maid I pay Rp 100,000 per week and she works 3 days x 2 hours, she also take care of paying the electric, telephone, changes the gas when needed and takes the washing to the laundry. I give her petrol money, and also pay for her daughter's schooling. She has been with me for years and is very happy with this arrangement. She has 3 other bules, so at the end of the week her salary is good.Originally Posted by Jimbo
At the "end of the day" it all depends on your relationship with your staff, trust etc and loyality, both from them and to them. Give a little extra and you can expect the same in return.
On the other side of the coin there is also the takers and users, just be aware and deal with this accordingly.
Wages
Do not forget those are the employees that have raised their marketvalue by learning to speak and understand English.In the rural area where i live hardly anyone in a regular job gets the minimal wages.Sometimes for people that produce handicrafts only half of the minimum.(All working for Balinese bosses)Those working on a per-piece-payment are even worse off.
@Polly:I would say normal work would be six days a week,eight hours a day including lunchtime.Of course sometimes they will need more time off at templecelebrations and special days.Personally i feel one hour off at the heat of midday is not enough,so my helper has time for a nap as well.I pay him a little over the minimum,plus half a month extra for Galungan and Kuningan(twice yearly)and a thirteenth month for the new year if he has been behaving well.
I think it is a good idea to build in incentives for good work.If you hire someone new,start lower and explain you will raise the salary if you are happy.
How is the house coming along?
Wages
In this link you can see the minimum wages for each regency.
Informasi Upah Minimum Regional (UMR) Tahun 2009, 2010 FREE >>
It seems that the inflation is quite high in Bali.
Hermit, it's good to have you back. Your post is very helpful. You pointed out that some employees are far more valuable than others based on language and skills. Also hours worked would obviously make a difference. For the government to post a minimum wage without any idea of hours worked is useless to me.
@ Scout, thanks also for giving us your guidelines. I think having someone 3 days a week for two hours a day would be all I need and I didn't have any idea how much to pay for the service.
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Hi Polly, Agree with you, I like to do somethings for myself, eg: personal hand washing and ironing, I also get into the garden with Made' at least 2 days per week. I have no desire to sit around watching others work.
Have sent you a PM
Skills
Well,i did certainly not mean to say that people making handicrafts were unskilled,on the contrary.I just was trying to say that the reality is many people do not get the minimum wage and gave the handicrafts as an example.Hermit, it's good to have you back. Your post is very helpful. You pointed out that some employees are far more valuable than others based on language and skills.
Considering the size of your garden-to-be i think you should have at least a part-time gardener.If not you will have no time left to make chocolate mud cake or cookies.
Yes, I understand that you're not saying people making handicrafts are unskilled. In fact so often they are incredibly skilled. I am still in awe of the Balinese ability to create beauty whether in a home, a garden, or in handicrafts.
One thing Scout touched on is having people who feel they are being fairly or generously paid. At present we have a happy building site with much laughter. I want that to continue when we're living in the house and don't want people working with us who feel resentful about the money they are being paid.
And I think we will have a part-time gardener. We not only want the beauty of a tropical Balinese well-kept garden but also want to have a veggie and herb patch. Can't wait to be growing my own veggies so I know what has (or has not) gone into growing them.
And I'll come by for that chocolate chip cookie making oven very soon. Today we're taking the five grandchildren to the zoo. I imagine all I'll want at the end of this day is a cool drink and a soft lounge chair.
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