Thread: Another Singapore Visa Run

Originally Posted by Bert

Buy a house? How can that be?

Ha ha, good point Bert

Ok, so I understand the law / requirement - just not the justification? What difference would it make to the indonesian government or people whether it was in sumbawa, kalimantan or bali?

Ct

Re: the house, Bert. Hak Pakai or Hak Sewa from what I was told by a friend who has an agent in the south, but I never checked with my agent about this as it doesn't really apply to me - I'm renting from my wife - but when I did, he said that he wasn't aware of that option, but he'd ask. I told him not to because I don't want to complicate issues. Sometimes the less said the better.

Because, Balilife, Indonesia does not want to be over-run with westerners - where-ever westerners live they influence the culture in ways that many Indonesians see as undesirable. So the idea is to keep them to certain pockets.
Of course westerners can live anywhere in Indonesia under other visas, but generally not in numbers great enough to make a difference to local culture.

ok.. got it.. makes sense, well as much as any other indonesian law does :|

Hi, doc
Welcome back, to Indonesia.

Just thinking about a midnight ride from Denpasar to Singaraja gave me goose-bumps. You did well to do it in two hours.

Happy to hear you got your retirement visa. So many stories, theories, outcomes surround this that I'm sick to death hearing about them. If any Indonesian government Cyber-spies are looking at this, I have a suggestion. Surely it can't be all that hard to have the requirements available somewhere for public consumption? How about a printed booklet? (I just smacked myself in the head for saying that! How silly of me!)

...Yes it is a requirement of the retirement visa. You have to buy a house ($35,000 or more) or rent a house ($500 a month or more) in an approved tourist area...

I've been on my retirement visa for years and haven't had to do any of those things you mention, though I've heard about them. Makes one wonder what the hell is going on?

My point here is that none of us should make categorical statements about any visas for this country. They just confuse everybody even more. There seem to be many versions of the "correct procedures". About as many as there are applicants.

I hope one day soon the "requirements" are spelled out for everybody to see and easily accessible. Wishful thinking, perhaps.

:D

Hey Philip,

Yeah, it was cold but fun to do the trip with my daughter who insisted on coming with me so that I wouldn't drive too fast.

As you know, many things are not what they appear to be. What I said about the retirement visa is what my agent said to me, Bali IDE has posted on their website, and a friend told me he had to do. That you didn't have to do any of them makes things at lot easier for you. If you take a look at the Philippines and Malaysia, they have all the information listed on a government website. You're right - a book would be great, but then that would be too easy and what would everyone have to argue about.


Salam

I agree with you Bruce.

I think your daughter did you a great service, slowing you down one those curves past Bedugul, (and the ones on the approach to there).

...If you take a look at the Philippines and Malaysia, they have all the information listed on a government website...

Indonesia has similar websites, although they're generally out-of-date and a bit short on relevant detail. That's been my experience.

:D