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    Mixed marriage in Indonesia—a review on
    “Kisah Kasih dari Negeri pengantin –Cinta Antar Bangsa”
    (Love Story from Brides Homeland–International Love) ”

    Sari H Musdar

    Currently “mixed marriage” – in this article should be interpreted as Indonesians who married to foreigners from different races and / or citizenships but both of them have same religion—sounds not an unusual matter in Indonesia, as in the last 2 years infotainment in TV reported some of Indonesian actress married to foreigners and sometime we meet our relatives or colleagues who experienced this, or maybe you found it happen in your own family, just like me, I have 2 brother-in-law from different countries (that’s why sometime my friends’ make fun of me as a united nations family, so all I have to do simply find a future husband from any foreign country, what a joke :D )

    That trend –if I may use this terminology from the infotainment TV Program— of mixed marriage has inspired a local publisher company to make a book –akin of story telling like a “chicken soup for the soul” or “chocolate for women” book— talking about this issue. No intention to make a hard-to-be-understood-book, the publisher then invites some Indonesian women whom have foreigners’ husbands (French, Swedish, US, Indian-decent -Singaporean, New Zealander, Bosnian) to make public their journey finding their life time partner until legally be united in a marriage. Using the title “Kisah Kasih dari Negeri pengantin –Cinta Antar Bangsa”, this book consist of story from 11 women who most of them have not background as professional writer --only one of the contributors was an editor in national daily newspaper (that is my beloved sister :) -- the publisher then let them retell their story with their style and share it for the shake of sisterhood. This book is released on the beginning of April by Forum Lingkar Pena an affiliate of Mizan Publisher to give sincere description about mixed marriage and sharing experience from women to women.

    Although the writers put in writing their story with their own style, but most of them has same plot, start in on how they meet their husband, the most waiting and touchy moment for women, time when their husband propose them –in Lien Ottman’s story we will find her husband has a very romantic way to purpose by getting down on his knee in front of hotel room’s doors, and saying “will you marry me” witnessed by some people in the aisle, the big decision to make that mixed marriage come about, the obstacle before or after marriage, the reaction of people around them when see this odd couple, the effort to adapt to their family, culture, custom, language, how to get used living aboard, the legal consequent of mixed marriage and advice how to keep the marriage run smoothly undermine that their come from different cultural background. As most romance book or movies always say that if the time comes, even though we hide behind a big stone, love will find away, despite of the fact they live miles miles away from their future husbands and separated by oceans, but then God make they meet each other, and thanks for technology, by it help some of them meet after chatting or in internet match maker site, although the other meet their husband by a traditional matchmaker or run into in college or in work place.
    Talking about most Indonesian judgment on their husbands, they not forget to share their experience in this book, given that most of local people around them think that every expatriates or foreigners, especially white men –here we called it “bule”—are rich. Some of the writer should encounter this disgusting treatment from Indonesian civil servant when they apply to get legal paper for marriage and they have to dig their pocket deeply and pay more expensive merely because their husband are white men! This fact is retold by Lien when she had to pay 10 times than the normal fee, the government officer than easily and innocently said that “Well, Teteh, you married to bule that amount Rupiahs is nothing compare to your future husband’s income”.

    As many Indonesians sometime wonder and ask them “why must married to bule or foreign men?” The contributors of this book answer that they never imagined will meet foreigners as their life partner, since they believe soul mate is part of God’s plan so as human, they just follow God’s plan. Is it true western guys are more romantic than local guys? From this book we know that not every white men are romantic, Harwati Lindsten who met his husband in her campus said that her husband even never give rose or any flower to her like she watched before in Hollywood movie. But maybe the different is their husbands think that domestic work in house not only wives’ responsibility so they are willing to share those jobs and help their wives, even sometime at weekend they spoil their wives by cooking for lunch or dinner.

    While trying to give advice to the readers the writers suggest Indonesian women who have plan to married to foreigners to take notice to legal matter prior to their marriage. It is not about love only in mixed marriage, since they are more than one legal system here, particularly should aware of applicable civil law, marriage law and immigration law from both countries. According to Indonesian Citizenship Law, a kid who was born from mixed married automatically has his/ her father’s citizen and Indonesian forbid double citizenship. As written in Carnelian Muhammad story, “when I gave birth in Jakarta I forget to register it in Civil Registration Office. When I want to go back to Singapore with my 3-months-old-baby, I have to pay USD 18 per day to get his visa otherwise this little-innocent-baby will be deported”. The other writer suggested making Pre marriage Agreement to protect Property/ land Ownership under Indonesian Agrarian Law.

    At the end we know that as any marriage, whether we married to local persons or foreigners, effective communication, the will to respect and understand each other are the key to maintain love keep exist and grow.
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    Hi Smudar,
    nice post. I have hier homepage from international couple... with many stories. Maybe one day, you will be part of them ...
    http://members.fortunecity.com/canzian/Couples.html#
    :wink:
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    hi Mbak Diah :-)

    Well, actually I just help my elder sister, marketing this book, she will get royalty from the publisher, so, the larger amount of book being sold, the larger amount of money she get :-)

    That's what sisters are for :-) helping each other..
    Thanks for the info, as i have 2 elder sisters married to foreigners, well, my mom has decided a quota in my family, so better find local guys :-) but we are talking about destiny right> about love/ soulmate ? who knows..

    So for everyone who lives in Indonesia, find out this book :D

    hihihi..
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    Interesting story Smusdar. I posted my own some time ago on how I met and married my wife. A view from a "bule" rather than the other way round.

    As an aside I have very rarely heard the word BULE. People have alsways called me Bapak James if they know me or Orang Belanda if they do not.

    Which is the most common?
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    Well, Sari... is that book in indonesian language or english? Many years ago i have to publish book with a similar idea in indonesian language and german ... but ... one day have just 24 hour and until now the manuscript must be waiting ... maybe until i and my husband move to bali... and hope that we have there more as 24 hours :lol: :lol:
    Can you tell me information about thats book: (tittle, publisher, price, language)... maybe i buy it as gift for my student, who plan to marry indonesian woman on September. Salam-Dyah
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    Well, Sari... is that book in indonesian language or english? Many years ago i have to publish book with a similar idea in indonesian language and german ... but ... one day have just 24 hour and until now the manuscript must be waiting ... maybe until i and my husband move to bali... and hope that we have there more as 24 hours
    That's book written in Indonesia for 1st edition. cause the vision of the publisher is really to share a real info toindo women.
    but if the 1st edition is succeed, maybe they want to translate it in english well, i will ask them to appoint me as the translator then :) it my big passion to be a writer, beside a painter someday..)or any foreign language and of course should be revised..

    Actually I sent the above review to a friend of mine who work as native editor in Jakarta Post and he wants to help me to load it on JP (but ofcouse he has to correct my english..)



    why you dont try ? and ask other writer as contributor?

    Title :
    “Kisah Kasih dari Negeri pengantin –Cinta Antar Bangsa”
    (Indonesia)
    Publisher : Forum Lingkar Pena (group of MIZAN Publisher, Bandung, Indonesia).
    Price ? hehehe to tell the truth I only got soft copy from the editor :)
    U have to find it in indonesia.


    Which is the most common?
    Hi Pak James :-)

    Most indo like to call all white person ( european, US/ or whomever who looks like caucasian) bule..
    Old Javanese people call all bule = londo = dutch
    but in office we call all bule manager Pak ....
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    Most indo like to call all white person ( european, US/ or whomever who looks like caucasian) bule..
    Old Javanese people call all bule = londo = dutch
    but in office we call all bule manager Pak ....
    Londo...in the old Javanese, is the same as Belanda, which means Dutch. In Bali, I never hear that word used. Tamu is more frequently used in Bali, and it simply means guest. Even Javanese are called Tamu by Balinese hotel workers. Bule for sure means white...AND western only...never used for Asian whites, including Japanese, the whitest of all!

    Neither term, bule or tamu, is at all to be considered offensive or derogatory. It is simply a distinction, and that’s it.

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