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    I was speaking to my friend in Australia who has just applied for a 60 day tourist visa
    It is very easy
    Down load the form from the Internet & fill it out
    Photo, passport etc
    You must supply a copy of your return ticket out of Indonesia up to 60 days.
    You do not need a sponsor
    This was last week
    So can anybody show me were & when the law changed to allow you to extend the visa?

    I can then go back to Immigration here in Surabaya & let them know when this happened
    As of this morning Immigration are telling me it is illegal to extend a tourist visa past 60 days.

    I know people have used agent to do this & have paid big money to extend a tourist past 60 days.
    When people ask visa question I like to give correct anwser, so if I'm wrong please let me know?

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    Perhaps it wasn't the law that changed but just the interpretation of that law?

    Don't forget how the law was supposed to have changed to allow foreigners to work on a spouse sponsored visa. Whatever happened with that?
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    like spicy says, the law hasn't changed...it's just applied the way it should.

    guess in sby they are a bit slow, and still haven't learned how to read indexnumbers of visa's
    maybe they are a bit confused, juanda being an airport where VOA is available..
    but if your friend wants to CHANGE not extend his 60 day touristvisa into a sosbudvisa, all he needs to do is bring a sponsorletter and show a returnticket within 180 days
    of when the initial visa was stamped at entry. If they don't understand, point them to the indexnumber saying B-211.
    like spicy says, the law hasn't changed just it's just applied the way it should.

    as for the spouse following visa and working, is as far as I know not yet applicable.
    Meaning the officials don't know how to process the application, what forms to use etcetc...
    could also be that those forms have not yet reached the kantor immigrasi..for a fact I know that they haven't received an official ammended copy of that law,
    as I have printed an unofficial copy for them.
    don't read between the lines..i think the words are clear enough...:)

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    Quote Originally Posted by spicyayam View Post
    Perhaps it wasn't the law that changed but just the interpretation of that law?

    Don't forget how the law was supposed to have changed to allow foreigners to work on a spouse sponsored visa. Whatever happened with that?
    spicayam the law has not changed to allow foreigners to work on a wife sponsored kitas, it is with the department of manpower & you will not see anything till next year.
    Last edited by Fred2; 14-10-2011 at 11:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilbert de jong View Post
    like spicy says, the law hasn't changed...it's just applied the way it should.

    guess in sby they are a bit slow, and still haven't learned how to read indexnumbers of visa's
    maybe they are a bit confused, juanda being an airport where VOA is available..
    but if your friend wants to CHANGE not extend his 60 day touristvisa into a sosbudvisa, all he needs to do is bring a sponsorletter and show a returnticket within 180 days
    of when the initial visa was stamped at entry. If they don't understand, point them to the indexnumber saying B-211.
    like spicy says, the law hasn't changed just it's just applied the way it should.

    as for the spouse following visa and working, is as far as I know not yet applicable.
    Meaning the officials don't know how to process the application, what forms to use etcetc...
    could also be that those forms have not yet reached the kantor immigrasi..for a fact I know that they haven't received an official ammended copy of that law,
    as I have printed an unofficial copy for them.


    TOURIST VISA



    A single entry Tourist Visa is granted for those who intend to travel to Indonesia for holiday/leisure purposes other than the exempted foreign nationals (Free Visa for Short Visit). This type of visa will also be granted to persons who are employed in the tourism area (to arrange and accompany a tourist group, to promote tourism in Indonesia, etc.).

    The Tourist Visa is not a working visa and could not be converted into any other types of visa. The Tourist Visa is valid if presented within 3 (three) months from the date of issuance.




    SOCIAL-CULTURAL VISA



    A single entry Social-Cultural Visa is granted for those who will conduct social-cultural activities (e.g. family gathering, education, sports, etc.) in Indonesia for a duration of up to 6 (six) months. The applicant must have a valid sponsor (company or individual) in Indonesia and must have the requirements listed below.

    Social-Cultural Visa is valid if presented within 3 (three) months from the date of issuance and could be extended in Indonesia or converted into a Temporary Stay Visa.


    Now both of these visa use the same form & you sign the bottom, by signing you agree to the condition of the visa.
    tourist visa you will leave Indonesia by 60 days & can not be converted.
    Social-cultural visa you will leave by 6 months.
    Now gilbert I know you can slide a Little money over the table. But that is illegal.

    As for the wife sponsor kitas change to a kitap, its no problem if you are in your second year of kitas etc.
    there is still not change for working.
    Last edited by Fred2; 14-10-2011 at 11:51 PM.

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    I am with you Fred but a B211 tourist visa and a B211 Sosbud visa are the same with one exception. The Sosbud visa has the name of the sponsor on the visa. There have been instances only in Bali where the B211 tourist visa has been extended but only by changing it to a Sosbud Visa by getting a sponsor. Other wise it is quite clear from any web site I have seen that the above is correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    I am with you Fred but a B211 tourist visa and a B211 Sosbud visa are the same with one exception. The Sosbud visa has the name of the sponsor on the visa. There have been instances only in Bali where the B211 tourist visa has been extended but only by changing it to a Sosbud Visa by getting a sponsor. Other wise it is quite clear from any web site I have seen that the above is correct.
    in that case, hopefully there won't be any more tourist/sosbud/voa visa threads then

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    Now that we have worked out the tourist/so bud visa's, If anyone hears of any changes to the visa please let us know.


    As gilbert said, a little money & things can happen in Immigration/agent
    Work visa no company 40 mill
    extension on any visa 1-1.5mill
    retirement visa no documents 15mill
    kitas no document 10-15mill
    And you don't even have to leave Bali (totally illegal but up to you)
    Next time I go to Immigration I will ask how many people get deported for false visa.

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    man you're expensive fred2
    don't read between the lines..i think the words are clear enough...:)

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    [QUOTE=Fred2;65799]
    Next time I go to Immigration I will ask how many people get deported for false visa.[/QUOTE

    That would be interesting Fred. I wonder if there have been any studies done? It is hard enough finding stats on western nations deportation numbers and reasons for deportation. Don't forget to give us an update on how this question went down.

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