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Getting permission for Balinese to leave Indonesia

Postby Gongchime on Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:10 pm

I'd like my Balinese girl friend to accompany me to Korea. Last time I tried to get a visa for her to Japan we were denied and they didn't tell us why. What's the best way to do this and how much should it cost?

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Re: Getting permission for Balinese to leave Indonesia

Postby Bert on Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:05 pm

Embassy / High Comission / Consulate for Indonesia
Office : Embassy
Street Address : Jl. Jenderal Gatot Subroto Kav. 57
Postal Address : P.O.Box 4187
ZIP Code : 12930
City : Jakarta Selatan
State : Jakarta
Country : Indonesia
Telephone : (62-21) 520 1915
Faximile : (62-21) 525 4159
Email : koremb_in@mofat.go.kr
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Re: Getting permission for Balinese to leave Indonesia

Postby BaliLife on Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:09 pm

hi greg,

you're post is probably titled slightly incorrectly. it's really about 'getting permission for a Balinese to enter Korea (or Japan)'.. rather than 'Getting permission for Balinese to leave Indonesia' - as indonesian's are free to leave indonesia at will, just in case anyone was wondering.

japan may have thought that your gf's intentions were to work there - or not leave as the visa required.. i'm not suggesting that was the case, but a lot of indonesians go and work in japan illegally, picking fruit, etc. my wife's second cousin was in a group of such a few years back and got deported back to indonesia.. just a thought as to why they might have rejected your gf, but again, only they'd know..

best of luck..

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Re: Getting permission for Balinese to leave Indonesia

Postby Gongchime on Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:39 pm

Thanks Bert for all the info but that's not really what was meant. Just because they tell you the rules of how to apply doesn't mean they told you the real deal as far as making things happen in Indonesia. There may be officials to pay outside the realm of normal channels to facilitate acceptance. Or a certain way of filling out the forms that increases your likelihood of acceptance.

For example, one person told me that if someone who is a Japanese national is sponsoring the visa, then you're more likely to be accepted. Not sure if thats true but was wondering if anything outside of the way things are done in the U.S., from those of you who have done it before, could help.

It was a surprise to me they wanted an itinerary with every hotel we plan to stay at, where we are going to shop and how we're getting there as in train, bus, etc...

We were really put on the spot because we didn't have that much time on the day we went to the Japanese embassy and now we're supposed to create a 4 week itinerary on the spot. Someone should have mentioned they wanted that before we arrived.

We wanted to write that we will book whatever hotel we can find, since cheap hotels are everywhere, AFTER we get there, and decide where to shop IF we see something we like along the way and if we decide to stay an extra day or two in some city we'll be doing that.

I don't imagine anything like that is going to help our chances of being accepted.

How should we fill out the forms to best advantage? Are there any other scenarios like that we should be aware of? Perhaps there may be some advice along the lines of, if you're not a Korean national then don't try to get a Korean visa for an Indonesian since it's a waste of time and money.

Someone told my gf that you have to use a service if you want to be guaranteed and they'll file the forms for something like 12,000,000 Rph. That sounds like a f!@#k in the "bleep" to me.

Yes Balilife, the title is misleading.
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Re: Getting permission for Balinese to leave Indonesia

Postby milan on Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:04 pm

Hi,

I'm Indonesian and I've lived in Seoul for almost 2 years.

My husband is Italian and was assigned in South Korea, so we lived thre as expatriates.

As an Indonesian passport holder, I went there to join my husband without visa. But once I was there, then his Company submitted our visa application based on their sponsorship and all went very well.

Hope this could be of help as another information for you to think of.

Good luck.
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Re: Getting permission for Balinese to leave Indonesia

Postby milan on Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:11 pm

I Just noticed that your destination is Japan. That's another question, even though I did get a visa easily at their Consulate here in Milan.
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Re: Getting permission for Balinese to leave Indonesia

Postby Ipanema on Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:51 am

BaliLife wrote:hi greg,

you're post is probably titled slightly incorrectly. it's really about 'getting permission for a Balinese to enter Korea (or Japan)'.. rather than 'Getting permission for Balinese to leave Indonesia' - as indonesian's are free to leave indonesia at will, just in case anyone was wondering.

japan may have thought that your gf's intentions were to work there - or not leave as the visa required.. i'm not suggesting that was the case, but a lot of indonesians go and work in japan illegally, picking fruit, etc. my wife's second cousin was in a group of such a few years back and got deported back to indonesia.. just a thought as to why they might have rejected your gf, but again, only they'd know..

best of luck..

Yes I was confused also because this is the second post regarding this and my partner never had to get permission to leave Indonesia. He needed a visa to get into Australia.
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Re: Getting permission for Balinese to leave Indonesia

Postby mimpimanis on Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:22 am

Hi Greg

I used an agent to get Made's visa for UK. Biddy tours in Lombok, dont know if they have a branch in Bali. We did not pay anything like 12 million for the service. However I found that Biddy requested over and above what was actually needed by UK for him to apply for his visa. As we were married he didnt need to have the 50 million balance in his bank account. At first they told us he did, so we transfered the money, he got copies of his balance, we transfered the money back to UK and then they said they needed somthing else from the bank with the balance. Arrrrgh (meanwhile the cash went missing in cyberspace between banks for weeks)I checked with the home office and they told me as he was married he didnt need to prove his funds to that extent.

Anyway, I dont kow about applying for a visa for Korea but I know many people who have got visas for boyfreinds/partners/husbands to UK & Australia. Im guessing some of the info will apply to Korea too.

A letter of invitation. (if you can get this from a Korean freind it may be better) Stating that she will their guest, that she will be staying in their home (doesnt have to) and they will be responsible for accomodation/food etc.

A letter from her emplyer in Indonesia stating that she has a job to return to. Easy enough to get, even if she doesnt.

Proof of any land or property she owns in Indonesia. Again it is another reason, that she would want to return to Indonesia not disappear into the underground in Korea.

Proof of funds, enough for her stay.

Thats all I can thnk of for now, maybe some of the other members who have got visas for partners can add to the list. I hope it is a help,

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Re: Getting permission for Balinese to leave Indonesia

Postby Roy on Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:04 am

As Korea is not a member of ASEAN, it will not be easy, or fast, to get your Balinese girlfriend a visa to Korea.

As far as I know, the only Korean Consulate office that will issue any visas is the Korean Consulate General office in New York City.
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Re: Getting permission for Balinese to leave Indonesia

Postby Gongchime on Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:42 am

Thanks everyone for your replies. I'm wondering now, how much should she have in her account to cover the trip and also how much is reasonable to pay a service?

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Re: Getting permission for Balinese to leave Indonesia

Postby Jimbo on Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:28 am

Greg

I am confused. Why do you not ask the Korean Embassy..it would seem the easist way or am I missing something?
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Re: Getting permission for Balinese to leave Indonesia

Postby mimpimanis on Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:00 am

For UK the amount for a non spouse entering was suggested at 50 million.
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Re: Getting permission for Balinese to leave Indonesia

Postby milan on Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:14 am

I am confused. Why do you not ask the Korean Embassy..it would seem the easist way or am I missing something?

I seem to think the same way too.

As for my entry to S. Korea --- I DID NOT HAVE A VISA TO ENTER THE COUNTRY. BUT ONCE I LEFT FOR 2 WEEKS ONLY, THEY ISSUED A RE-ENTRY VISA BASED ON MY SOJOURN BELOW.
Once I was there, then they gave me. Here's the copy of it, if need be, I'll show all the stamps on my passport page per page.

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Status of sojourn from visitor to this visa.
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Re: Getting permission for Balinese to leave Indonesia

Postby Roy on Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:24 pm

Good grief Greg, you are in Korea, so as Jimbo intimates, ask the question to the horse!
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Re: Getting permission for Balinese to leave Indonesia

Postby Gongchime on Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:02 pm

My home has been in Bali for the last 7 months, not Korea.

So, if there' enough money in her account they can issue her a visa on arrival? That would be nice. Then no need for an agent.
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Re: Getting permission for Balinese to leave Indonesia

Postby Roy on Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:49 pm

Greg, this entire string is what we used to call FUBAR in the military. So now, she is coming to you in Bali, and from Korea?

A quick suggestion...start this string over. Cheers
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