Residence for seniors / retire in Bali

Hi

Has someone information about Kompleks especially designed for seniors who want to retire in Bali. There are several projects in Thailand providing different housing sizes or appartments as well as services like doctor, cleaning, drivers, etc. especially designed for the elderly. I am not looking for a single house or villa but be part of a kind of community within a kompleks. Thanks for any information.

Hi gunung

Has someone information about Kompleks especially designed for seniors who want to retire in Bali.

I don't know of any such places around Bali. In Indonesia, what you're referring to are "perumahan" which are basically condominiums. Again, I know of none specifically targeted at elderly retirees. It also sounds like what you're looking for is some kind of private retirement home/complex.

The closest you'll get, in my opinion, is an up-market condominium thing that might have a doctor on-call. "Seniors" with any serious on-going medical problems are best advised not to come here at all. Unless they are especially adventurous and have lots of travel insurance.

I suppose I'm a western "senior" retired here. I rent my house and have some travel insurance. I have no idea what will happen if I have a major problem in the future. Like I said - for the un-afraid and adventurous, no big deal. So long as they realise the "risks" and don't worry too much about them.

:)

[rien.gluvers]

I for sure know there is no Complex especially designed for seniors who want to retire in Bali. That is why I am trying to build establish something of that kind on Bali. But unfortunately it isn't as easy as it seemed.

[Sanurian]

Hey Rien

Maybe Pak Roy's "perfect" Balinese village is working on it.

Although many Indonesians (including Balinese) "respect" older people, I think these days it's a case of diminishing returns. Or maybe a by-product of of the modified physical law of attraction; the inverse one, where the closer you come, the further you'll be thrown, sooner or later.

Bali is not immune to this kind of attitude, no matter what established expats think (or dream). Everybody has to grow up sometime.

If you and others who read this think I'm being ovely negative and nasty - so be it. I am not trying to stir up people for no reason. If I see things here on this island differently from some others, I'd like to think it's because I'm not blind yet. If Pak Roy brings up the line about how come I've been robbed/ripped-off so many times in the past (which I have), my answer is that I've never lived in some kind of impervious cocoon. And never will. And never want to.

I'm not sure I'm on the right thread for this and unfortunately, Rien, you've copped it. Watch for Roy's reaction. I can feel it coming.
:oops:

[JabberWokker]

Hi Sanurian,

I think it is interesting to have different people’s opinions. But as a matter of interest after all of your troubles in Bali, would you prefer to live anywhere else :?: And if so why :?:

Dear JabberWokker

But as a matter of interest after all of your troubles in Bali, would you prefer to live anywhere else

Maybe "Heaven" might be a go but all my best friends who've died so far are definitely in "Hell". I'd rather be there. (I think.)
I don't have enough money to explore every place on the planet that I've dreamed of. I'm sure you don't either. Life's like that, my friend...tantalisingly obtuse, abstruse, or whatever other adjective/adverb one tries to put on it.
I defy anybody to answer your question to me completely honestly.
The "best" place to be is probably the one we're in...we just have to figure out how to survive there elegantly.

Being a real alien, I'd like to go back home. After nearly 60 years on your planet, I still can't find spare-parts to fix my broken space-ship. Yeah - you'll probably laugh at that, think I'm a complete nutter, etc etc...But what if I'm telling the truth?

For sure I'll get into trouble about those commments one day, but it's not your problem. People from my world are more or less gentle - there are many others out there who are not.

I've already said too much - maybe I'm a "masochist" and enjoy punishment. Or maybe I just enjoy pushing peoples' envelopes.
Self-portrait/emoticon follows:
8)
(Just joking...OK?)

[JabberWokker]

The "best" place to be is probably the one we're in...we just have to figure out how to survive there elegantly.

I like your answer – well “no pain no gain” :) .

[Roy]

Frankly Sanurian, I think you would have problems surviving in a women's prison with a fist full of pardons! :P

[Roy]

Sanurian,

On a more serious note, (and yes, you deserved that smack), it is not me who has determined Bali as very attractive for retirement. That was established last year by a poll conducted by the AARP...the American Association of Retired Persons. They have a membership of over 20 million people. In the poll they conducted, Bali came in 5th worldwide as the place most retirees would like to settle.

Gunung,

To more seriously answer your question...no, right now there are no retirement communities in Bali...but you can bet that soon enough it will happen. In my own village, just outside of Ubud and along the Ayung River, our community is planning such a facility to be built on at least five hectares of village owned land and right along the river’s edge with fantastic views of the Ayung River gorge. This will be a fully self-contained retirement community, but within it we will be re-building our primary and secondary schools, as well as a medical clinic specializing in geriatrics. Additionally, there will be a helo-port for emergency medivacs to the international wing of Sanglah hospital in Denpasar...about 15 minutes by helicopter.

The Ubud area, especially along the Ayung River has one of the best year round climates in all of Bali. It has moderate humidity, clean fresh air, and maintains an average daily temperature of 84 degrees Fahrenheit with little daily fluctuation.

This project is not a commercial endeavor, but rather community owned, and will be professionally operated by outside experts as needed. The benefit to the community will be that all children can receive complete education at no cost to the families right up to the collegiate level, and that all villagers will have free access to the medical clinic. Conceptually, it will be a village within our village, but totally integrated within the entire village.

The benefits for the retired foreign members of the village will be quality housing...one level only, with all services like laundry, cooking, gardening, cleaning, etc provided by the staff.

Currently, this is all still on “the drawing board” but it will happen as the vote to do this has been finalized by the village “adat” or elders. The concept is seen as a total “win win” situation where both the villagers, as well as the retirees benefit.

Since Rien has finally “come clean” and admit that he has similar plans, you can PM me for more details, which for proprietary reasons, would be careless of me to publicly share.

[Sanurian]

OUCH - that hurt Roy, but it's OK.

Your info about the forthcoming retirement place is interesting. I was wondering when somebody would do it and guessed it was only a matter of time.

Oh - and JabberWokker: given your avatar image, I'm not surprised...are you an alien, too?

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