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RE: Having rights versus getting your rights

Postby Person on Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:16 pm

Cara siap sambehin injin

Like black rice thrown to the chickens.

Chickens don't normally get black rice so if you feed it to them they will be confused.

Said about someone who comes across something new and is easily confused.

Source: Balinese - English Dictionary, Fred B. Eisman, 5th edition, 2001, p74.
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RE: Having rights versus getting your rights

Postby Markit on Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:20 pm

Thorsten - we were doing fine until it got to your post script;

"PS: For the wrong German results on Google, maybe complain at Eric E. Schmidt, his German name should be a commitment!"

Now I don't have the foggiest idea what this is all about?!?

Should I run it back through Google, smoke some of your whacky backy, or just pretend to understand??? :oops:
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RE: Having rights versus getting your rights

Postby Thorsten on Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:23 pm

For Markit

Mr. Schmidt is the CEO of Google and if you really lived in Germany for a while, you should know about his average German name.

For Allan,

you got a kind of translation, but you are still clueless about the meaning.

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RE: Having rights versus getting your rights

Postby Person on Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:31 pm

you got a kind of translation, but you are still clueless about the meaning.

Could be any number of things. Maybe you are referring to that fact that Google provides a lot of information but no understanding. Or maybe an individual has access to a lot of information but is confused about what is true or false due to a lack of true understanding. Or maybe you are criticising Google itself for disseminating information all the while getting rich from advertising to the confused masses and their unethical behaviour in China. Or maybe you are saying that Kadek is "casting pearls before swine" with her Balinese admonishment of the general behaviour on the forum.

In any case my incorrect take on the idiomatic etymology of "der hund" in the expression or the clumsy way I put it forward (if that is your main bone of contention) can't really be blamed on Google or Eric E. Schmidt. Rather I blame myself first followed by Hyde Flippo, About.com and The New York Times Company.

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RE: Having rights versus getting your rights

Postby Thorsten on Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:35 pm

Allan,

Google is great and this is not about Google at all!

The funny thing is, it’s all more about having right, claiming to be right, getting right and it’s almost a caricature of Western behaviour due this.
My congrats that you were able to “translate” (a translation of the words does not necessarily reflect the original meaning of a statement) Kadek’s input, never less you are on the wrong way with your interpretation.
Her Balinese point of view is the bone of contention in this case – Cara cicing megarang tulang (like dogs fighting over a bone) – from a Balinese (and maybe female) point of view, it’s simply absurd to argue about something meaningless, it doesn’t matter who’s wrong or right, nobody would ever waste a thought about it, a principle all over South East Asia to agree and smile even when knowing it better.

Why I’m telling you this and why do I not simply ignore?

It’s certainly not your attempt to correct my German correction (hell I am German), I also never had any intention to start a discussion about Google (in case you translated Balinese with the help of Google, I’m impressed), no Allan – it also doesn’t have to do anything with confusion, the chicken wont be confused, they don’t see the black rice, the meaning of the phrase is (politely) - not to recognise the truth, even when served straight under your nose.
My point to pick on this like a chicken is that I have monitored a change in your postings in general during the past weeks and to tell you the truth – I don’t like this change.

This is not a kiddie forum and it’s never been, usually when a problem occurred the members of this forum took care for it and when somebody showed up with some extreme or insulting postings, the forum solved this problem by itself (sometimes Bert has to take the iron brush, but seldom).

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Sorry Allan, I thought about writing you a PM, but then the chicken came to my mind and the black rice.
By picking on details sometimes the view over the whole gets lost.

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Probably a good start !


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RE: Having rights versus getting your rights

Postby Markit on Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:55 pm

Was it something I said? Is there a virus going around?

I think now I'll devote more time to my hobby internet porn - at least the participants pretend to like each other.... :cry:
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RE: Having rights versus getting your rights

Postby Thorsten on Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:56 pm

Hi Bert,

so much green here nowadays, almost looks like a Taliban forum! :roll:
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Re: RE: Having rights versus getting your rights

Postby Bert Vierstra on Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:08 pm

Thorsten wrote:Hi Bert,

so much green here nowadays, almost looks like a Taliban forum! :roll:


Not strange with so many "rule terrorists" :P
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Re: RE: Having rights versus getting your rights

Postby Thorsten on Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:43 pm

Bert wrote:Not strange with so many "rule terrorists" :P


Sounds like Musharraf 8)
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RE: Having rights versus getting your rights

Postby Bert Vierstra on Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:56 pm

Hmmm, I feel more like Bhutto...
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RE: Having rights versus getting your rights

Postby Person on Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:13 pm

Was it something I said? Is there a virus going around?

No it's about having rights versus exercising your rights. Or is it the inverse? I'm easily confused. :D

I'm glad I'm not in Pakistan right now. Even the judiciary have been locked up. Not sure how that helps. :(
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Re: RE: Having rights versus getting your rights

Postby Thorsten on Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:21 pm

Bert wrote:Hmmm, I feel more like Bhutto...


You are corrupt ? :shock:
Why haven't you told before Bert - there is always a way to arrange something :wink:
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RE: Having rights versus getting your rights

Postby JAMIE on Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:20 pm

THORSTEN , why so mad ? Outside of your posts on your string "kadek goes west " , your always so pissed ? Are we to dumb for u ?
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RE: Having rights versus getting your rights

Postby Thorsten on Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:22 pm

JAMIE,

I'll spare my response to you, it would be censored without any doubt !

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RE: Having rights versus getting your rights

Postby JAMIE on Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:39 pm

PLEASE , spare no barb ! Let me have it .
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RE: Having rights versus getting your rights

Postby Thorsten on Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:44 pm

JAMIE,

you wanne have it? Let's do it via PM - OK?
I'm too lazy to type anything which will get nuked afterwards!

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