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    Apologies All Round!

    Let me be man enough to admit in public that I am completely wrong and that I will now, immediately go out and stick my tongue down some mangy street dogs cankerous throat.

    You big, hairy, manly people on here have rightly put me in my place and I thank you to the bottom of my lilly livered, scaredy pants heart.

    Just out of interest I thought (before I came to my senses) I'd look up just how bad this silly, mild, negligible, hardly worth mentioning Rabies infestation her on the Island of the Gods really is. Statistically or course.

    Well, in a normal year (the last year figures were available was 2004) in the USA 1 person dies of Rabies, yep! One whole person - in a really bad year it's 2!

    The worst country for human deaths (again 2004) was India where they had in one year, with a population of 900 million people, 21404 deaths there which makes about 1 in every 35000 people died there from the disease.

    Course here on Bali we don't need to worry at all - don't know what I was thinking... stupid me!

    With about 50 deaths here a year and a population of 3.5 million we have about only 1 in 70,000 cowardly people that have died of the disease - half the rate of India - pheeew! what a relief that was to me.

    Oh damn these statistics it is just a teeny tiny smidge up on the rate of 1 in 300,000,000 for the USA But what the hell! Nothing for real men to worry about!

    Good job Rabid dogs don't carry guns huh? They might really be dangerous then!

    Now I'm gonna go out and find a dog to play with.

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    Markit, you've been exonerated!

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    I am not a dog lover, in the Uk all dogs mean to me is crap on the side walk, danger of being bit or loose hairs all over the place. In Bali, Rabies, disease, crap, danger to road users and stinky. I do understand dog lovers [my mother had 3 pugs] and can see how they can become part of the family. What is often overlooked by dog lovers is other people may well not hold the same feelings toward their amimals as they do. In fact quite the opposite. I have had a dog owner treating my house [a no pet zone] as a playground for their dogs. Leaving me with hairs, vomit and muddy footprints to clean up. Oblivious to the smell and my discomfort, commenting on how wonderful they are and commenting that the poor dog had eaten too much grass, about the vomiting. Now if they were children, yes, It would be fine. But they are not. They are animals.
    I understand where Markit is coming from. I agree with him. Whilst I am believer of 'speaking your mind', there are more subtle ways to express the truth. I suspect Markit is not surpised by the reaction he got to his post. After all it was written [like most of his posts] to get a reaction. But for the record;
    I don't want fido anywhere near me no matter how much you love it!

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    The film asks the question: if we can’t get on with the dog, our closest of natural companions, what hope have we with nature herself?
    don't read between the lines..i think the words are clear enough...:)

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    Quote Originally Posted by matsaleh View Post
    Markit, you've been exonerated!
    I really wonder why,Matsaleh?

    First of all,i take rabies very seriously.I probably are the only member on this forum who can say a familymember died of rabies,albeit a long time ago.
    I did have myself vaccinated consequently.
    Markits claim that if expat owners would only chain up their dogs, there would not be a problem is too ridiculous for words.Never met any stray dogs in the streets?
    Rabies vaccination is NOTpainful,and if taken here not too expensive.
    Anyway anybody worrying so much about rabies and not taking vaccination because of the cost seems to have a more serious problem.
    For the majority of you who were not present at markits visit here a short description from my point of view.:
    He came to get scans of the already earlier discussed Black and White pictures of bali in the 30ties.When arriving he did not say anything about being uncomfortable with my dogs.Both of my dogs are bali dogs,adopted from the asylum in Lodtunduh.One of them,untipical for balidogs,likes everybody and wants to lick them.From the day she arrived here,nothing to do with the nationality of the owner.The other dog behaves like most balidogs and keeps her distance from strangers.
    When mr.M was seated and scanning pictures,the sweet dog came up once and licked his hand,after wich he mumbled something like,"do not like bali dogs",wich i recieved as a statement.If he was really afraid of being infected at that moment(wich can only happen if you have open wounds on your hands)what would have been more easy than ask if my dogs are vaccinated?I could have provided the immunisationcards in two seconds to put him at ease.Mr M.very courageously stayed two more hours to finish the scanning of the pictures(repeatedly complaining about the speed of my scanner and computer)and then left in a hurry.
    After recieving him and letting him have the scans i was ,let us put it mildly,unpleasantly surprised to read his verbal fart about all these expat doglovers that had done him wrong.
    In my opinion the whole rabies angle is just to justify his verbally uncourteous explosion.
    "I prefer the balinese way,as usual "he ended one of his posts.So do I,and therefore i am a hermit and limit my visitors to balinese(of whom no one ever had a problem with my dogs)and dog-toting expats.Thanks for the good lesson!
    I can only agree with the sharp analysis that Johnny Cool has given above.

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    Dear, dear Hermit - my original post was never intended to attack anyone in particular but, if you refer back, was pointed at all dog owners - 5 of which I had visited in short succession. Maybe it's a language thing?

    I made no mention of you or my visit to your house, you did. I still wish you and your dogs no ill will but I do stand by my rights as a human being!

    Being a dog owner myself I am all too aware of the passions that these 4 legged beasts can cause - I will never forget the time a neighbour's dog was merrily humping away on my young daughters leg and as Fido's joy juice was frothing onto her socks the neighbour happily announced "Oh how cute, he does really like her!". As Mat said dog owners can be particularly blind to the effect their animals are having on the world around them.

    That was the purpose of my post - not to upset or offend you personally but to make you and all other dog owners here on Bali understand that there is an issue that they should be aware of with respect to their Fido and other peoples rights not to be endangered by him and his like.

    Peace! And I was not complaining about the speed of your scanner/computer but about how much of your time I was wasting with my feeble efforts to get those lovely pictures scanned.

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