In the last 3 days I've had the good fortune to visit with a number of very nice and friendly Expats that I'm absolutely sure would never think of greeting me and then hitting me upside the head with a hammer - never!!!
But what all you dog owners/lovers out there in Bali don't seem to have considered is - I fecking hate having your pooch come up and lick my hands in that friendly way dogs do!!
You may know what your dog has been doing or has been vaccinated for but I sure don't!!!
So next time I visit keep Fido on the lead, locked up in a room or have him put down for the occasion. I don't really care which - but I don't want that son of a bitch licking my fecking hand OK???
If worded like this,there will not be a next time as far as i am concerned.So next time I visit keep Fido on the lead, locked up in a room or have him put down for the occasion. I don't really care which - but I don't want that son of a bitch licking my fecking hand OK???
Perhaps you'd consider a full hazmat suit next time you leave the house, just to ensure you don't get cooties ;).
Or a slightly simpler suggestion, just ignore the dog, don't put your hands near where they can lick em and most dogs will leave you alone.
Ok for the simple minded lets put the discussion on an easier level:
If I had a rattlesnake that I loved dearly and I had of course defanged and removed his poison sacks for the comfort of all around him. Lets call him Ratty, OK?
You come to visit my house and Ratty is simply overjoyed to see you and before you even notice that Ratty is there he's up your leg and cuddling against your chin. Course you don't know about the defanging or poison removal.
Still with me? How would you feel about Ratty, do you think?
See the thing is a rattlesnake bite, regardless of what all stupid Western Movies say, is hardly more poisonous than that of a wasp or bee.
But just a lick from dear old Balinese Fido where Rabies is endemic can mean that I die a horrible and painful death.
Light beginning to shine yet. I would have thought it was common courtesy - but maybe some of you have forgotten that?
Oh, and hermit - I can live with that, but it's a pity you don't seem able to understand what I'm on about..."my good friend in Bona"...
It is perfectly clear what you are talking about.Oh, and hermit - I can live with that, but it's a pity you don't seem able to understand what I'm on about...
I would think that an adult would be able to express his concern about this in a clear way when visiting someone,wich you did not.
It is a bit childish to complain afterwards on a public forum about how you were tortured.
Do you really think any expat in Bali has un-vacinated dogs?
What i object to is the wording of your post.
Have you ever considered getting yourself inoculated against Rabies?
You might be a little more relaxed in dealing with the world.Allover i suggest you screw back your pace of doing things by 50 %,that also might make you less uptight.
No need to reply.
Believe it or not I didn't just come across one house with a dog that sent me rabid (pardon the pun) but Hermit your house was the 2nd of 3 Western homes that I had the good fortune to visit in the last week and 1 of 5 if I include the Balinese one, with dogs.
My venting isn't just a lapse of sanity on my part but an overflow of anger based upon my own experiences and those of many other people who share my concern with their health and the apparent lack of understanding shown by Western doggy lovers.
What better place to express this than on an open forum visited by masses of Expat pooch lovers?
"Do you really think any expat in Bali has un-vacinated dogs?" Yes! I'm sure of it. But the question is are you willing to bet your life I'm wrong? Why should we have to?
"What i object to is the wording of your post." Really? Which one?
"Have you ever considered getting yourself inoculated against Rabies?" See, there it is again - why the feck should I get myself painfully and expensively inoculated when all you have to do is put fido on a lead? I really don't get it....
Childish? Childish might best describe the actions of someone who says "Fido lives here, you are not" which I presume means he can do as he pleases where as I, the visitor, have to put up with it? Is that the way you treat all your visitors?
Thanks for your concern about my relaxation - I suggest the best thing for that is do as I suggest and put pooch on a lead or in a room during the visit - or at least ask your visitors before fido has layered them with his saliva if it's ok. Called common courtesy - adults do that.
Oh as I mentioned at the beginning I was in 5 household with dogs of which 3 were expat - without fail expat fidos bounced and slavered all over me with joy upon my arrival - the Balinese dogs stayed well away and didn't take an eye off me.
I prefer the Balinese way, as usual.
My wife is from Lombok. We live in the US. In her home and those around her, dogs are never touched. They are considered unclean. When I first visited her home I noticed the dog and went to pet him. My wife stopped me in a panic. Her family woul have considered me dirty and had difficulty accepting me if I had touched him. She was suprised when she came to the US and saw people with dogs in their homes and allowing them to lick their faces etc. We would visit homes and she would experience the same thing Markit refers to. Now we have two small kids and she has to protect them from the dogs as well. So, I'm just saying, I can relate a bit to Mr. Markit. And perhaps the solution is to move to the village in Lombok. You may have to change your style of communication a bit though.
When I first read Markit's post, I thought I should get my eyes checked. Unbelievable...
I don't personally know hermit nor Markit, for that matter.
hermit's comment sounds totally reasonable to me:
So what gives here? Markit's statement about rattle snakes vs wasps is ridiculous. If I had a choice, I'd rather be stung by a wasp than bitten by a rattle snake any day.It is perfectly clear what you are talking about. I would think that an adult would be able to express his concern about this in a clear way when visiting someone,wich you did not.
It's possible that Markit suffers from Cynophobia (fear of dogs and rabies), and possibly Panthophobia (fear of disease and suffering), as well. ("Phobias" are anxiety disorders characterized by extreme and irrational fear of simple things or social situations.)
As far as I know, there are few (if any) cures for stupidity apart from death.
The following image offers some salient advice when one is put upon by monkeys. Note that it's advisory "number 5"...I wonder what the other ones are.
The image is a bit small - sorry for that. (You can still click on it for a slightly bigger version).
But what it says is this:
5. Never grab a monkey. If a monkey gets on you drop all of your food and walk away slowly.
If the monkey jumps on you, stand still and walk away slowly.
Unfortunately it doesn't warn monkeys about rattle snakes (cobras and pit vipers here).
Last edited by JohnnyCool; 23-05-2011 at 04:23 PM.
I think Markit has been on the sauce for too long