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No matter what, I love England team although they haven't won the Cup since 1966, right?

So, that's alright, mimpimanis. England did reach semi-final after all - I think.

Milan, hadn't you better check first that Roy also loves the English Soccer team? You wouldn't want to post anything contradictory to Roy's opinion afterall.

Ct

It bothers you, doesn't it that I have the liberty to express my opinions which so happen coincides with his. Didn't know that there is a law that forbids me to do that until you arrived. Gee, thanks!

No Milan, it doesn't bother me. What bothers me is that you're simply what we in Australia would call a 'suckhole'. Other than that you seem very nice.. Very simple, but very nice..

Right back at you with your vocabulary.

Thanks for calling me nice. That's very generous of you.
Simple? Let me teach you something. With that very same simplicity; it has taken me so far... And not in Surabaya only which I have been 3 times.
How about that?

having only been here three times, you might be wise to limit your assumptions about what opportunities exist in surabaya then..

i can assure you, if i decided to relocate to italy, i could - and not as a maid

oh i'm sorry, now that was uncalled for..

ct

we start off with "no one seems to be buying anything/Giorgio Armani caffe'", we enter "costs of living", cross over into the soccer game, turn right into England, turn right again into opinion alley, left at relocating to Italy and then do a U turn towards Maids ????????????????????????????????

We are such diverse people on this board from various countries/ cultures/realities.
I find this interesting.

Where were we ?

sorry, rainy, stormy night here, a bit bored, logged on to see whats happening and its
round three again.

hows my beautiful Bali going ?

chilli wrote:
hows my beautiful Bali going ?

I can assure you Bali doesn't bother about us at all.

Okay, where were we? I just finished ironing. That's right, I'm a maid, but it's my off day today, tuan?? Apparently, you don't give a hoot what everyone else is writing but your own.
Thus, your remaining "ignorant".
But I do admit you make me laugh. You're so funny to a point of being pitiful! Carry on, you're entertaining.
Just because I'm Indonesian, a word "maid" has to be injected into that. You're such a racist and classist. Yet, you're married to one.

Ok, so i think i just had a post knocked (not entirely sure), but if so, fair enough..

Anyway, I think it's time to end this.

Milan, I don't think you're a maid - it's obvious that you are not a maid and I'm sorry for suggesting such - it was inappropriate and cruel.

I'm not a racist or a classist - but I don't think many would stand acknowledge such even if they were.

Your posting in the 'hygiene' thread 'rubbed me up the wrong way', as i felt and still feel it's a valid discussion and I felt you were hopping on-board the 'do-gooders' train. This is a public forum and I think some things need to be open for discussion in a candid manner without having to worry about every Tom, Dick and Harry jumping on the "that's offensive" ship. Nevertheless, I do believe things need to discussed in a decent manner and I reiterate that I should have been more selective in my language when posting the 'hygiene' thread.

It's funny that generalizations are tolerated and in fact embraced when they're positive - but when there's a hint on negativity or controversy, generalizations become a very ore point of contention.

Anyhow, hopefully this will end an argument that's probably boring other members of the forum to death.

Ct

Just finished my lunch although I didn't have what you had at Warung Italia as I only had salad. And by the way, what you had there is really an authentic way of preparing Italian food with the fresh basil as such. A pity you couldn't ask the owner where did he get his basils from.

Apology accepted as you're man enough to come forward with it.

And I did agree with you on your first paragraph about the maid (shouldn't be on this thread, but never mind) as I'm worse than you in that am even more fussy than you when it comes to hygiene that even my little daughter was influenced and on our visit to Jakarta, she flinched at one fly that flew and landed on her lap. So, that shows how clean-freak I am.

Now as to generalising everything that flipped me out completely. I'm not a nationalist.
And I didn't jump on the do-gooder group of people as I sdo peak for myself and myself alone.
I'm maybe naive but I see the world in rose-tinted glasses and it has put me to good stead, believe me.

You never heard me complaining about the Italians, the French, etc., yet I've had bad experiences in these countries but that's the fact of life when you live in one place for that matter. It's nothing to do with the nationalities.
On the contrary, my own husband (being Italian), couldn't even understand how I could easily adapt and even be more Italian now than he is that I had to take over whenever he gets into his Italian temper when faced with certain things here and I feel blessed that I could learn about this culture as well.

Therefore, I hope you and also "I" could take these episodes (even though fun), as lessons in learning more about one another with all our respective baggages and what not and be civilised about it.

Truce???!!

No, just kidding.

Arrivederci! Have a pleasant stay in Indonesia.

Truce..

Actually, I also wondered where the heck they were gettinmg such large anounts of fresh Basil..

I'm now sitting in Cafe Pisa, East Surabaya, where the food is of a considerably lower standard

Ct

Surely they would have no problem growing Basil in Bali, with such rich soil and
tropical showers. I would imagine it is easy to grow anything in Bali.

Perhaps.. I always thought Basil was slightly more seasonal and difficult to grow than say Thyme, Oregano, Marjoram and Rosemary, which are much more hardy - and can take dry conditions.. I'm not sure how Basil would cope with the heat..

Not sure about my reply here, not a basil specialist.

But i thought that once the basil plant flowers, it turns bast@@@d (they say in Italy) and its over with.

Perhaps growing different basil plants constantly is how they get to have supply of the basil..

as i said, not sure, just thinking out loud.

It would be great to plant basil leafs as I really need them for my cooking once I live in Jakarta.
When I was there last, I was delighted to see readily packed and even organic salads available that are imported from Aus. or NZ.
However, I didn't see any fresh herbs such as parsleys, basils, as well as the Italian dry herbs.
I need to cook Italian food at least once or twice a week. It's a must.