I agree with Rangi on this one. Ive lived in Legian for the last 10 years, and my house has never been broken into, nor has a pembantu or worker ever stolen anything from me.
People associate the south the scumbags, which is in part true due to the transient nature of the toursits and hangers on there, but theres another side to it too. Theres plenty of nice people in the area once you settle in.
You have a motorbike accident in Legian and the locals wont come out with sticks and beat the crap out of the ambulance and throw the driver from his seat until theyve ripped every cent from him and the severely injured bule victim in the back..........switch this scenario to some out of the way villages in the middle of bali and this does very well happen (actually did happen - and not the bule's fault either). The Banjars dont attack and kill each other in the south either as opposed to the more isolated parts of Bali.
Most criminals are smart and opportunistic. They carefully weigh the prospect of the reward versus the risk.
The risk of getting away with a home invasion in a built up area is pretty remote.
There's plenty of people who've tried to take to village life away from the vile nd horrible south who've had the very people they surround themsleves with end up making their lives miserable.
Pastikas claim that bali is "oversensitive" to such crimes gives a fair indication of his attitude to foreigners in general.
I wouldnt kid myslef into thinking that the south is far more prone to voilence or nastiness than anywhere else in Bali. All it takes is one desperate person who may need nothing more than food for his family and you can be the answer to that problem one way or another.
Dress down head down doesnt really work when your the only expat living in a local community miles from anywhere.
Nothing personal Mat, but what is it with the arrogant, 'my shit doesn't stink and my place on this island is more deserved' attitude that some expats seem to have? While not all of them are pleasant, I'm sure a lot of these 'bintang singlet clad bogans' that seem to be constantly in the crosshairs of some people contribute a far lot more overall than some of the tight-arsed, penny-pinching expats that are nothing more than an extra (and unneccesary) resource drain on an Island already sinking under its own filth. Unless you are Balinese, you have no more right to be on the island than any other tourist or 'bintang' clad bogan.
Sorry to vent, but I think some people need to have a reality check sometimes. Most of the ugliest of the ugly behaved visitors I have seen have been in designer label clothing (and not in Kuta). And despite it's flaws, perhaps there is a reason why there are more people in the south ie Kuta etc. is because the majority of people actually like this place more than anywhere else? Have some people actually forgotten what makes the cogs turn on this island?
Perplexed.
Adz
Fight apathy! Or don't.
While l agree with Adam to a point. The attitude that westeners have no right to be here is toally wrong. Hey, my wife is Balinese and my kids were born here. When a tourist or a local says you have no right being here , yes l do.We are a family and have every right to be living together.
As for the robberies, a friend of mine had his house and 3 others broken into last week. It was never reported in the papers.The good thing for him, his wife's brother is really high up in the police force, so the case is getting special attention
Found this to be a good read, scraping the surface a bit regarding some Police officers decision to join the bad elements.
Cheers,
Mark.
“I was forced to do it because my pay from the police wasn’t enough to feed my family,” he told the court.
Sounds like police is not earning much in Bali
I was told last week the starting salary is Rp500.000 per month for police. They then have to repay the Rp100 juta or so that they borrowed from the family to secure the position in the first place.![]()
housing: yes on remote islands the unmarried policemen (usually most of them) living together but as much I heard it isn't anything fancy; salary isn't high (I also doubt 500.000 though, just asked my wife she said 1.800.000 / some cousins are in Ambon & Sulawesi)
it isn't much but they get pension when they are retired, 100 million to become a policeman? it's around 60 million for a "simple" policeman, 100 million for special police like BRIMOB, the numbers are 2-3 years old though...
what I know is that a fat stupid guy out of shape with 100 million has a better chance to become policemen than a fit supersporty tall smart guy without any money (every year just one guy, the best of the year doesn't has to pay), that is incredible!
Last edited by sakumabali; 12-02-2012 at 05:32 PM.