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Thread: 14 year old Australian boy arrested on drug charges

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    If I was an aussie in a jail overseas I think the worst words to hear would be Rudd saying "I'm from the government and I'm here to help". If you look at the past efforts of the aussie government they would be the last people to ask for anything, if you think your in the s**t just ask the government for help and you know you will be. Rudd is only trying to make himself look good and if anything has made the situation worse, aided by the media, that will print just about anything, truth or not. There should be no big stick here just softly softly. This young bloke, like most young aussie's think their fire proof, as has been seen before Indonesian Drug Laws are actually acted on unlike Australia where every one talks about tough drug laws and that it's, they talk. While I have some sympathy for the young man, maybe now he and his mates will realise when you visit another country abide by their laws.

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    If they get this kid out then they need to fly the ambassadors to Hong Kong - Release Rachel Diaz who was 15 when she was arrested and the AFP informed HongKong of her, they then need to fly to Cambodia and release Gordon Vuong who was 14 at the time of arrest also with AFP assistance on the arrest.

    This just irks me a bit too much, he was an idiot yes he is young but their is juvi facilities in Indo, you do it for 1 you must now do it for all aussies. If your not happy with Indos legal system then you need to put money in to at least try and better it for locals.

    You dont like a white kid being in an asian jail? Well get asian kids out of our white adult jails. These poor kids took a job, not drugs, they were not being smart, they were not being dangerous. They were taking a job they probably didnt even know was illegal.

    Its made me so annoyed this whole thing. Its disgusting, the government need to stop calling the kettle black and admit what they are doing, have done to both asian-australian minors (subjecting Gordon to the death penalty at 14) when cooperating with overseas governments and release foreign kids in our jails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soontobeexpat View Post
    A close friend of mine is one of the Examples indonesia has made out of Aussies drug trafficking, he is a house hold name. The same kind of rubbihs came out about how it was a set up, he was trapped etc. I love my friend dearly however in the end he wasnt set up, he willingly accepted an offer to traffic drugs back to australia with 8 other people for money and just happened to get caught along the way. Is the death penalty appropriate? I dont think so but this is why i dont traffic heroin.

    This kid willingly purchased the weed, no one ever knows who is selling drugs really, its always a secret. Okay you go to your dealer but you never know who your dealer is working for. Its sad, so sad that he is spending his time there however he did do the crime. He accepted, he paid and Im sure he had a big smirk on his face for the next 50 minutes. I hope he does come home in a speedy way so hes not traumatised but has learnt a lesson.

    If Australia is going to kick up this big fuss then okay, we need to a. acknowledge that we have 93 juveniles - the youngest being 13 sitting in maximum security jails in W.A who majority of them can only speak Sasak not Indonesian and do not have translators in with them, only for official conversations. They are subjected to cavity searches daily, they are kept in jumpsuits and cable tied around the openings of the jumpsuit to meet with visiotrs, they are housed amongst the general population and are sleeping with adults who do heinous crimes. b. if we know Indonesia's judicial system is terrible for children then we need to make sure any child that is going to be subject to that legal system has the right to a fair trial - Indonesian or western. if it has to be then Australia needs to throw money at that service. Its not right to accept an Indonesian being subject to it but not a precious little white child.

    These 93 juveniles in the jails here are in there for being a part of the people smuggling syndicate the government say. They weredeck hands, cooks, cleaners from poor villages and a well known case he was paid 200,000 IDR for the trip. is it fair that i go to jail if my boss ioperating an illegal business that I know nothing of?
    Well said, and i was not aware of these children in Australian jails, now going to google and find out all the details.
    Jail is not a "walk in the park" for adults, let alone children
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    Quote Originally Posted by scout View Post
    Well said, and i was not aware of these children in Australian jails, now going to google and find out all the details.
    Jail is not a "walk in the park" for adults, let alone children
    Scot the sad thing is is alot of these kids can only speak sasak.. Not many can speak bahasa because of the lack of education in thier village so if they were that poor that generations havent been to school, havent learnt bahasa its pretty much fact these kids also do not have TV's, an internet service or access to newspapers. It would be unlikeley they are aware of the legalities behind this new great job that lets them come here. They go without translators and Hakea has no security division as its remand, they were initially held on Christmas Isalnd (14 when he was held on xmas 16 years old when he was in Hakea) and moved down to Hakea in Cannington, Perth. Hakea does not seperate prisoners based on crime.. You can be housed with a murderer or someone who owes a speeding fine.

    I just cant stand this Western supremacist attitude held towards Indonesians.. Whether we are tourists their, they are living here, we commit a crime their or vice versa..

    I think western supremacist is the right description. I dont know.
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    I agree with Goldminer. Everyone knows the laws in Bali when it comes to drugs and fine if you want to give a begger money give them money but dont take anything in return. The point is if your going to do drugs in Bali your going to get caught no matter what your age. As Australians we expect people coming to our country to abide by our laws so we should respect what ever country we are in and abide by theirs!!!! The saddest thing of all about this is that the kid is 14 and has admitted to having a drug problem and is in rehad back in Australia ....... seriously wrong he is a child with a drug problem... what does that say about our society. I love bali that why I have moved here !!!!

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    Well, It may be Out of Topic, but just to remind you, please consider have an eye watching your luggage when you travelling to another country Who knows someone slip Marijuana in your bag

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