If I was an aussie in a jail overseas I think the worst words to hear would be Rudd saying "I'm from the government and I'm here to help".If you look at the past efforts of the aussie government they would be the last people to ask for anything, if you think your in the s**t just ask the government for help and you know you will be. Rudd is only trying to make himself look good and if anything has made the situation worse, aided by the media, that will print just about anything, truth or not. There should be no big stick here just softly softly. This young bloke, like most young aussie's think their fire proof, as has been seen before Indonesian Drug Laws are actually acted on unlike Australia where every one talks about tough drug laws and that it's, they talk. While I have some sympathy for the young man, maybe now he and his mates will realise when you visit another country abide by their laws.
If they get this kid out then they need to fly the ambassadors to Hong Kong - Release Rachel Diaz who was 15 when she was arrested and the AFP informed HongKong of her, they then need to fly to Cambodia and release Gordon Vuong who was 14 at the time of arrest also with AFP assistance on the arrest.
This just irks me a bit too much, he was an idiot yes he is young but their is juvi facilities in Indo, you do it for 1 you must now do it for all aussies. If your not happy with Indos legal system then you need to put money in to at least try and better it for locals.
You dont like a white kid being in an asian jail? Well get asian kids out of our white adult jails. These poor kids took a job, not drugs, they were not being smart, they were not being dangerous. They were taking a job they probably didnt even know was illegal.
Its made me so annoyed this whole thing. Its disgusting, the government need to stop calling the kettle black and admit what they are doing, have done to both asian-australian minors (subjecting Gordon to the death penalty at 14) when cooperating with overseas governments and release foreign kids in our jails.
I have just learnt that pleasing everyone is impossible. But, pissing them off is a piece of cake
Scot the sad thing is is alot of these kids can only speak sasak.. Not many can speak bahasa because of the lack of education in thier village so if they were that poor that generations havent been to school, havent learnt bahasa its pretty much fact these kids also do not have TV's, an internet service or access to newspapers. It would be unlikeley they are aware of the legalities behind this new great job that lets them come here. They go without translators and Hakea has no security division as its remand, they were initially held on Christmas Isalnd (14 when he was held on xmas 16 years old when he was in Hakea) and moved down to Hakea in Cannington, Perth. Hakea does not seperate prisoners based on crime.. You can be housed with a murderer or someone who owes a speeding fine.
I just cant stand this Western supremacist attitude held towards Indonesians.. Whether we are tourists their, they are living here, we commit a crime their or vice versa..
I think western supremacist is the right description. I dont know.
Last edited by soontobeexpat; 11-10-2011 at 09:43 PM.
I agree with Goldminer. Everyone knows the laws in Bali when it comes to drugs and fine if you want to give a begger money give them money but dont take anything in return. The point is if your going to do drugs in Bali your going to get caught no matter what your age. As Australians we expect people coming to our country to abide by our laws so we should respect what ever country we are in and abide by theirs!!!! The saddest thing of all about this is that the kid is 14 and has admitted to having a drug problem and is in rehad back in Australia ....... seriously wrong he is a child with a drug problem... what does that say about our society. I love bali that why I have moved here !!!!
Well, It may be Out of Topic, but just to remind you, please consider have an eye watching your luggage when you travelling to another country Who knows someone slip Marijuana in your bag