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    A local was asking me if I could help him find customers for his trekking business. He spent some time talking to me about all the places he could take tourists and his prices are quite cheap. I said I would do what I can and just happen to meet some people looking for a trekking guide. I meet him in the street yesterday and told him I would call him later regarding some potential customers. I tried calling him this morning and he wasn't answering his phone. Sent a message and still haven't had a response.

    He could of course have something on, but it made me think of the times I have had this experience. People ask for a job, you have a friend looking for workers and for whatever reason, it doesn't work out. Doing job interviews with people I am very surprised how some people haven't had jobs for several years and they have large families to support. Many people I know are extremely hardworking and then some just don't work or want to work at all. I am not saying this is unique to Bali or anything, but I just find it puzzling and of course frustrating.
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    hahaha...yeah, amazing isn't it.
    someone's asks for help (local and foreigner alike) then when you get what they want/need/search, and try to contact them...
    don't read between the lines..i think the words are clear enough...:)

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    I'm thinking maybe its a personal thing rather than a cultural thing, I know the two Balinese guys that work for my father-in-law are some of the hardest working people I've ever met. They've been with him for over 10years. These guys work from early morning until late at night 7 days a week, they never complain and seem happy with what they get in return. Then there are people like you say who haven't had jobs in years, and the ones who had jobs had only worked there for a few months and quit. How they support their family I have no idea, maybe their wives are the bread winners.

    To me it just seems that theres an extreme difference in peoples attitudes towards working.

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    I have found a lot of them have too many schemes running at once and never do any of them any real justice, this applies outside of Bali also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi View Post
    I have found a lot of them have too many schemes running at once and never do any of them any real justice, this applies outside of Bali also.
    Exactly !
    Everyone is a real estate salesman , tour guide , driver and whatever you want or need they reckon they can get it.

    But most of the time are found sitting somewhere on there motor , texting their friends...

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    if he is leading trekking trips and is a 'one man' show, he could be out with clients in areas with no reception. Perhaps you will hear from him as soon as he returns. However, he should have told you that he could be away for a few days. Maybe he has had the experience of seeking assistance, and never hearing from that person. Just giving another opinion.

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    Default Confusing situation?

    I am located in West Bali where there isn't much economic diversity; mostly coconut plantations and some sawah, yet the people people seem to be able to afford nice bikes for their kids and otherwise seem financially capable. In the six years I have been here I have found difficulty in getting staff, and could really use a good gardener.
    My summation of the the situation is that my close connection to a particular family may be hindering my ability to find other people to employ. One family member does my frequent maintenance of plumbing and electrical problems while another does a variety of tasks, but none well. He is just plain lazy and think that his control discourages others from trying to replace him. Do others find this situation? The family ties have their benefits, but the flip side seems detrimental. Like to know your comments from similar experiences.

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    This sounds all too familiar. My father in law hired his best friends son 8 months back and since then every new worker has left because of him. The guy is plain lazy, if a new worker comes in he takes on the senior role and orders them to do all the work. He also has a habit of bad mouthing new employees to make him self look good. The worst part is we're really understaffed right now and the last few worker have been great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spicyayam View Post
    A local was asking me if I could help him find customers for his trekking business. He spent some time talking to me about all the places he could take tourists and his prices are quite cheap. I said I would do what I can and just happen to meet some people looking for a trekking guide. I meet him in the street yesterday and told him I would call him later regarding some potential customers. I tried calling him this morning and he wasn't answering his phone. Sent a message and still haven't had a response.

    He could of course have something on, but it made me think of the times I have had this experience. People ask for a job, you have a friend looking for workers and for whatever reason, it doesn't work out. Doing job interviews with people I am very surprised how some people haven't had jobs for several years and they have large families to support. Many people I know are extremely hardworking and then some just don't work or want to work at all. I am not saying this is unique to Bali or anything, but I just find it puzzling and of course frustrating.
    Yeah i do find that a bid odd. All my local mates have been struggling for buiness and i thought that anyone in the tourism industry would be jumping out of their skin for that kind of work

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtrken View Post
    Exactly !
    Everyone is a real estate salesman , tour guide , driver and whatever you want or need they reckon they can get it.

    But most of the time are found sitting somewhere on there motor , texting their friends...

    Cheers
    Ken
    Ken, you forgot to add pimp.

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