Bali Street Dogs

[Sanurian]

I know this is short notice but I was asked yesterday to try and promote a meeting of
"all animal lovers and people concerned with the Bali street dog problem".

The meeting is 2pm on Saturday, October 7, 2006 at Le Bake
The address is: Kuta Poleng, Simpang Siur, Kuta
(Le Bake is next door to DiJon.)

The purpose of the meeting is to share ideas and discuss possible solutions.

For further information, please feel free to call Linda on (0361) 790-4579 or HP: 081 855 0947

:D

[Mark Wales]

Hi Sanurian,

This is a good idea. Are they any shelters for the street dogs?
And is your meeting to do with this? Just asking. Wondering
whether I could also be part of this?

Salaam Wulaykum

[matsaleh]

Are they any shelters for the street dogs?

Hi Mark, yes there are. I'd suggest you contact this group:

http://www.yamp.com/balidogs/foundation.htm

[NED]

Sanurian, please let us know the outcome of this meeting.

Thanks,
Ned

[Sanurian]

It's very nice for me that there have been some responses to this thread. I haven't had a chance to write my own manifesto regarding what, in my opinion, is often the maltreatment of dogs around Bali. Soon.

And just to make this very clear...the meeting is not my meeting, but I'll be there.

Mark asks:

...Wondering whether I could also be part of this?...

Anybody who cares or has any ideas about this is more than welcome.

I'm not sure, Mats, that the previous Bali Street Dog projects have enough money to continue.

Then there are individuals, like Linda in Ubud, who do what they can with what they've got. All power to people like that. I adopted one dog off her some 6 weeks ago...wasn't in 'perfect' condition by any means. That dog is doing really well now although I think she ate a wasp today and her mouth was quite swollen for several hours. She's OK now. We took her to Ubud a couple of days ago so Linda could see her again. A nice trip, apart from the doggie vomiting in our car (again).

And Ned asks:

...please let us know the outcome of this meeting...

I will, for sure, Ned.
8)

[Ilu]

Fir5st off all I would like to say that I love dogs. But I don`t undarstand why people want to resque all this dogs. most of tham is half dead. I can understad that some wants to resque the ones who is still healthy. Maby I just have missed something, but the realy ill dogs are they saved or are thay put to sleep?
I lived in Spain before and the street dogs was a huge problem in the town I was living. once a year the goverment killed all the loose dogs.

[Mark Wales]

Well folks, the meeting regarding the Street Dogs went off well.
Infact, Phil and his dear wife adopted a beautiful black and white
male puppy with eyes that could steal your heart away. Looks a little
like one of those telly tubbies! Congrats, Phil, atleast one dog less
will go hungry tonight.

[Sanurian]

Well, Ilu

It's kind of like this...

Bali has about 3.5 million people and nearly a million dogs. Many of the dogs are sick or ill-treated. It's not a pretty sight. Somebody should attempt to address this issue (the way I see it). There are many facets to "the issue", not the least of which is education for Balinese to learn how to look after animals that are not considered to be of any economic importance.

...But I don`t undarstand why people want to resque all this dogs. most of tham is half dead. I can understad that some wants to resque the ones who is still healthy. Maby I just have missed something, but the realy ill dogs are they saved or are thay put to sleep?...

You raise a number of points. Even a half-dead dog might deserve to be put out of its misery in a humane way. Unfortunately, that doesn't happen most of the time in Bali. Should sick dogs be "saved" or killed? Either way, who will do that and who will pay for it?

If, as you maintain, you "love dogs", I think you have "missed something". Sounds to me like you only have "compassion" for "healthy" ones. That's your choice, of course...but please give some consideration to what happens to the sick, legless and ugly ones.

Or do you believe they don't have a right to live with a minimum of dignity?

:x

[Mark Wales]

Ilu wrote

I lived in Spain before and the street dogs was a huge problem in the town I was living. once a year the goverment killed all the loose dogs.

Well dear Ilu, Spain has a pretty poor track record where birds are concerned. As the Osprey will tell you, if it could speak. These wonderful birds "normally" migrate from North Africa to Wales and Scotland. Many were killed while flying over Spain. Apparently the Spanish (bless their souls) love shooting at anything that flies.

The Osprey worked out another route and soon (I had been fortunate enough to witness) they arrived back in Wales and were breeding there again after a gap of a few years. This was six months ago!!!

So when you mention the Spanish killing off dogs, frankly I'm not surprised.

[tracyinaz]

Ilu wrote

I lived in Spain before and the street dogs was a huge problem in the town I was living. once a year the goverment killed all the loose dogs.

Well dear Ilu, Spain has a pretty poor track record where birds are concerned. As the Osprey will tell you, if it could speak. These wonderful birds "normally" migrate from North Africa to Wales and Scotland. Many were killed while flying over Spain. Apparently the Spanish (bless their souls) love shooting at anything that flies.

The Osprey worked out another route and soon (I had been fortunate enough to witness) they arrived back in Wales and were breeding there again after a gap of a few years. This was six months ago!!!

So when you mention the Spanish killing off dogs, frankly I'm not surprised.

I noticed when we were in Bali the large amount of stray dogs in the streets. I don't believe that it is a problem only in Bali. I was reminded of the streets of towns in Mexico ( which we frequent often). In fact, it wasn't the dogs so much that drew our attention as the cats! The dogs seemed to receive some respect from the people around them. The cats on the other hand.....my husband even joked about the "feral kitties" that were around all the time! Being an animal lover, it is my instinct to take them all home, but, realistically there is only so much you can do. Kudos, Sanurian, for getting involved. As you pointed out, one animal at a time.

I'm afraid that I will have to leave my beloved cat, Molly, behind with my stepson when I move to Bali. I guess that means that I am in the market for a pet when I get there. I believe I will help the cause by adopting a dog myself!